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JG Facebook statement

By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 15:08Fri Jan 19 15:08:56 2024

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Apologies if already posted


How can one man take all this away from our community all our football clubs history just thrown in the bin for pure selfishness gain!!!
You Boro supporters keep your eye on the site
He must have a building plan in place
To be so heartless and just do this to our town is beyond belief
The new potential owners offered to buy the Ground/Land back and put it in trust for sports only and got told he wouldn’t sell it for a million?
The new owners also offered to clear any rent issues and pay 12 months rent up front!!!
All proposals were simply turned down,
So Ardent Tigress
Mark Lowther
And
Neil Robinson
Have simply closed the local football club down for there own gain,

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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JG - CWR

By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 17:10Fri Jan 19 17:10:54 2024In response to JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0h2kq2q


2:20 mins in apparently

Everything in place.

“My opinion as nothing to do with club”

He did it with atherstone - got them from now where - was owner? Did atherstone have a ground?

“Rent nothing to do with it” “was paying rent”

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

Edited by VS Boro at 17:15:56 on 19th January 2024

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By Armchair vulture19/1 17:29Fri Jan 19 17:29:25 2024In response to JG - CWRTop of thread

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Yet more hubris from the JG. The rent not the issue now. So what was the issue?
The increase in debt since his tenure began perhaps? Or perhaps that was the fault of others. 🤷‍♂️

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By Barwell Boro (Spurs and Verde)19/1 18:02Fri Jan 19 18:02:07 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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One of the most incredible things about this time boro going bust is JG moaning on Facebook blaming everyone claiming he done absolutely nothing wrong and people in their masses just lapping it up - incredible really

Didn’t know until this event if you have a landlord and you don’t pay your bills you are the victim and the person you owe money to is in the wrong - crazy

But the mentality of people really does amaze me - is it cause of his name reputation and people just trying to suck up to him really don’t get it ???? Like watching the Godfather and Don G has been screwed and mob looking for someone to blame

Retired Boro fan
Tottenham and Austin FC sufferer

Edited by Spurs and Verde at 18:03:18 on 19th January 2024
Edited by Spurs and Verde at 18:04:05 on 19th January 2024
Edited by Spurs and Verde at 18:04:59 on 19th January 2024

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By s. tone ragma7 (stone ragma)19/1 18:09Fri Jan 19 18:09:55 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Said before AT bought the Stadium with the intention of kicking Boro out, JG was not alone involved in running the club so others including SE, Dan A, must have known the rent was in arrears, don't believe the rent was the reason AT kicked us out but do believe it gave them the excuse, hypothetically wonder what AT would say if a new club was set up and no one from the previous incarnation was involved and then approached them about LW !!!

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Re: JG - CWR

By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 19:20Fri Jan 19 19:20:21 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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You said this when Smurf was selling?
When nobody knew anything about AT…. They may not even have existed.

At the end of the day the responsibility stops at the top. If the top delegate to others (who don’t follow instructions) then who delegated to them?

All JG has given them is an earlier opportunity to remove boro - what have Boro been doing to prepare for that event in three years?
All I can see is spend on the team, get promotion then be left with no ground.

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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By s. tone ragma7 (stone ragma)19/1 19:28Fri Jan 19 19:28:58 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 562

Because thats what you want to see, there is more to this i am certain

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By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 19:31Fri Jan 19 19:31:04 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 545

So - what would happened in 3 years?

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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By s. tone ragma7 (stone ragma)19/1 19:55Fri Jan 19 19:55:16 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 495

Exactly what has happened now because there intention was to get us out, the rent gave them the excuse to do it earlier but isnt the reason imo

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Re: JG - CWR

By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 20:30Fri Jan 19 20:30:22 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 437

Land owners and property owners can do what they want with their land (having followed legal process)

You don’t pay your rent: you’re evicted. (With protections to minimise homeless)

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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By VoR19/1 19:27Fri Jan 19 19:27:57 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 551

AT proposed the construction of a new Stadium.

I thought that you understood that by now?

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Re: JG - CWR

By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 19:32Fri Jan 19 19:32:59 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 531

What the hell has that got to do with the post I was replying to.

And didn’t you know I first (and have often) pointed to the coops minutes

I thought you would have known that by now.

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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By VoR19/1 19:34Fri Jan 19 19:34:59 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 551

You keep mentioning 'no ground'...why?

Is it a mental block?

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Re: JG - CWR

By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 20:28Fri Jan 19 20:28:13 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 458

Sorry

Boro leisure will soon not exist and have not even had a leased ground to use for 4 months and not owned one for about 10 years

Which ground should I be aware of?


And again - what has your comment got to do with the response to someone else?

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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Re: JG - CWR

By Gustavus19/1 20:30Fri Jan 19 20:30:08 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 447

Unfortunately the clever reflective one had access to the VoR account this morning but this evening the boorish oaf has the seat!

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By VoR19/1 20:34Fri Jan 19 20:34:00 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Just questioning your two-pronged attack on the latest proposals announced today?

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Re: JG - CWR

By Gustavus19/1 20:44Fri Jan 19 20:44:36 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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You mean the indecent haste to announce a Phoenix club whilst the old one still exists after being forced into an announcement by JG CWR interview presumably because he feels left out?

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By VoR19/1 20:49Fri Jan 19 20:49:25 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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JG has gone.

He is speaking out for himself.

He wants to be heard.

I'm not linking the two, we have just had a sensible discussion about liquidation, we need to appreciate that on the face of it we have two very enthusiastic, potential new owners, who want to explain their plans to us & the sooner the better in my opinion, we need to cut them some slack & listen to what they have to say?

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By Gustavus19/1 21:20Fri Jan 19 21:20:59 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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HMRC aren’t stupid!

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By VoR19/1 21:28Fri Jan 19 21:28:04 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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HMRC are the real danger!

They could issue a winding up petition & that would mean an immediate forced liquidation.

How that would impact on the Club's plans, I don't know?

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By Gustavus19/1 21:30Fri Jan 19 21:30:57 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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If it even smells like “the club” as you call it it won’t happen,

This announcement is v premature whatever the provocation from JG!

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Re: JG - CWR

By Gustavus19/1 19:27Fri Jan 19 19:27:45 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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As has been pointed out by quite a few now there were multiple breaches of the lease not just rent.

So it was made v easy for re entry of landlord.

JG interview inaccurate on CWR and there will be written evidence otherwise.

It also seems to me the announcement of the Phoenix club has come far too early given Boro Leisure hasn’t gone into liquidation yet. Presumably they’ve been bounced into it by JG interview but presumably FA will be watching.

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By Inquisitiveone19/1 21:20Fri Jan 19 21:20:32 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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I have been an interested observer for some time as this shambles has unfolded. Claim,counterclaim, blame. From my experience of running sports clubs, committed volunteers with experience of their sport are not the only qualities required . Increasingly, business acumen, a grasp of regulation and negotiating skills are needed. I am not convinced that this amalgam has existed in the recent past so would hope that in the event that NBFC or the next entity re-appears people with these qualities are involved.

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By VoR19/1 19:31Fri Jan 19 19:31:38 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Liquidation is a lengthy process.

If they achieve that aim within 3 months, they will be doing very well.

It could easily take 12 months or longer, there is no time limit to such a process.

Their first task is to decide which is the best method to liquidate Boro Leisure Ltd.

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By Boropod (BoroughPod)19/1 19:34Fri Jan 19 19:34:05 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Does not matter about Boro Leisure any longer, the Phoenix club will be an entirely new entity and company, probably with a new company and team name.

Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'

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By Gustavus19/1 19:35Fri Jan 19 19:35:08 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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It will matter if Phoenix company is seen as a ruse to scrap debts!

There should have been a dignified period of silence but that been ruined by JG

Edited by Gustavus at 19:35:36 on 19th January 2024

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By Boropod (BoroughPod)19/1 19:48Fri Jan 19 19:48:42 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Ian Neale did it obscenely quickly and was very bad for the creditors, our name was mud for quite a while but it happened with only a couple of seasons of lower league for the club as we know. This time its far more serious.

Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'

Edited by BoroughPod at 19:49:13 on 19th January 2024

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By Gustavus19/1 19:50Fri Jan 19 19:50:11 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Yes but that was a voluntary liquidation and didn’t happen mid season

He also thought he was clever taking the Nuns ground away. I wonder how that turned out?

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By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 20:35Fri Jan 19 20:35:55 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 423

Don’t mention that

The Nuns deserved it and who cares if they were homeless and might even go out of existence.

How we laughed at CCFC for not owning a ground

However - this is serious; it’s the boro

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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By VoR19/1 19:37Fri Jan 19 19:37:37 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Pheonix clubs/companies are bad news, regarded by many as being outlawed.

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By Gustavus19/1 19:39Fri Jan 19 19:39:12 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

Views: 530

Yep - I actually think you’ve talked a fair bit of sense today about the various options.

Although you seem to have forgotten that breaching the lease took away a statutory right to renewal. And thereby made Boor irrelevant to future plans for LW!

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By VoR19/1 19:41Fri Jan 19 19:41:00 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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That's just a smokescreen you keep putting up Gustavus.

AT needed to get rid of their sitting tenant & you know that!

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By Gustavus19/1 19:43Fri Jan 19 19:43:41 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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The sitting tenant removed themself by defaulting on the lease in several ways.

And as you correctly deduced a few weeks ago that automatically removed the statutory right to renew.

So no reason for future involvement in LW discussions

Edited by Gustavus at 19:43:54 on 19th January 2024
Edited by Gustavus at 19:44:11 on 19th January 2024

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By VoR19/1 19:59Fri Jan 19 19:59:56 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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You keep wanting to 'oust' the Boro from any future negotiations at LW.

I don't believe that was the original intention, unless there is some truth to what JG is now saying?

My own view is that there was probably good intent on the part of AT but once they had done their sums properly, what was being discussed wasn't affordable, they took an action based on a commercial decision, hoping that they could cover their tracks & the Boro have unwittingly given them all of the ammunition they need!

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By Gustavus19/1 20:01Fri Jan 19 20:01:23 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Ah now you’re not so wise!

Have a good evening!

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By VoR19/1 20:03Fri Jan 19 20:03:46 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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I can only base my judgement on the discussion I had with Jason & Santi.

What has happened doesn't add up to me!?

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By Gustavus19/1 19:33Fri Jan 19 19:33:34 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Unfortunately longer I think

As I say they haven’t gone INTO liquidation yet presumably because no director.

So there will be winding up order by someone like HMRC and compulsory liquidation is taken much more seriously than voluntary. There may well be consequences

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By VoR19/1 19:38Fri Jan 19 19:38:46 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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It could be simpler than that, with no appointed Director(s), they could be struck off.

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By Gustavus19/1 19:40Fri Jan 19 19:40:01 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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That won’t stop the liquidation and investigatory process!

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By VoR19/1 19:43Fri Jan 19 19:43:19 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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If Boro Leisure has been wrongfully trading, what you say could be relevant but that has to be proven.

The conduct of the Director(s) could be investigated over the past 3 years.

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By Gustavus19/1 19:44Fri Jan 19 19:44:42 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Well said!

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By Barwell Boro (Spurs and Verde)19/1 18:13Fri Jan 19 18:13:04 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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I’m no legal expert but for boro to be kicked out the ground they did something wrong - if they did nothing wrong then the landlord couldn’t have kicked them out. If he did kick them out for no reason then that would be illegal and would have been the easiest slam dunk of a case for the lawyers but that hasn’t happened …

So in my view with lack of knowledge boro are sadly in the wrong and maybe just me but how can people not see that

Retired Boro fan
Tottenham and Austin FC sufferer

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By Armchair vulture19/1 18:07Fri Jan 19 18:07:25 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Sadly it seems many still have heads in the sand and won’t accept the overwhelming evidence of who has actually destroyed the club.

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By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 18:05Fri Jan 19 18:05:51 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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I don’t feel strong enough to look at Facebook

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

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By Barwell Boro (Spurs and Verde)19/1 18:07Fri Jan 19 18:07:08 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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If you wanna see what ass kissing on mass looks like good thing to look at currently 😂

Or indoctrination could be that again on mass

Retired Boro fan
Tottenham and Austin FC sufferer

Edited by Spurs and Verde at 18:08:22 on 19th January 2024

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By Armchair vulture19/1 18:09Fri Jan 19 18:09:25 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Like Hitler in his bunker surrounded by the red army blaming his generals and the German people for his own demise.

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By Barwell Boro (Spurs and Verde)19/1 18:10Fri Jan 19 18:10:09 2024In response to Re: JG - CWRTop of thread

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Well wouldn’t go that far

Retired Boro fan
Tottenham and Austin FC sufferer

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Re: JG Facebook statement

By Vernon Slain19/1 15:20Fri Jan 19 15:20:52 2024In response to JG Facebook statement Top of thread

Views: 936

What were the “rent issues” ?

127–45-26-56–171-198…..160*/381

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Re: JG Facebook statement

By boingboing19/1 15:14Fri Jan 19 15:14:16 2024In response to JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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I said it before and I’ll say it again.

The landlords were not the ones who didn’t pay the rent.

The landlords were not paying silly money to the players over paying bills.

The landlords were not subletting LW to JAG.

The landlords didn’t con everyone with a boost the budget campaign at season.

Landlords didn’t increase the debt by £200k.

But alas, all the landlords fault and only the landlords. How dare they and only they destroy the club.

Edited by boingboing at 15:17:32 on 19th January 2024

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By VS Griff (VS Boro)19/1 15:16Fri Jan 19 15:16:47 2024In response to Re: JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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Yes, but apart from that 🤪🤪


And to add - the rent was about half a Breedon.

>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<

Edited by VS Boro at 15:18:58 on 19th January 2024

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By MJNB19/1 15:44Fri Jan 19 15:44:29 2024In response to Re: JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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May sum up my general apathy towards Boro in recent times, but I’m bored of the whole scenario I think.

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By Unnamed Sauce ((Dysfunctional sector))19/1 15:50Fri Jan 19 15:50:20 2024In response to Re: JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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Me too.

We need to get over it and move on.

UTG

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Re: JG Facebook statement

By Armchair vulture19/1 15:48Fri Jan 19 15:48:46 2024In response to Re: JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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It’s just going round in circles now.
The club is dead and the facts tell us who has destroyed the club. And it’s not the ground owners.

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By rayfer19/1 17:53Fri Jan 19 17:53:05 2024In response to Re: JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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At the end of the day i presume the Manager/ Chairman and the Directors all knew the extent of the debt we were in
so what happened, we paid players/ Staff large amounts of money we could not afford, we even stopped paying the rent, that's why we are where we are now No Club, if we do go into liquidation this will be the 3rd time !!

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By Armchair vulture19/1 17:58Fri Jan 19 17:58:20 2024In response to Re: JG Facebook statement Top of thread

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Yep - and companies house tells everyone the real story - that since JG arrived the club debt has grown significantly. It’s there for all to see so if the owner and manager not to blame for that then who is?- the barmaid in the club or the hot dog frier?

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