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By RockyBottom29/12/2018 15:49Sat Dec 29 15:49:36 2018

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This highlights why we need pace in midfield. Byrom and Timlin are being given the runaround. We just don't look like a team.

Such negative tactics as well even at 1-0 down.

They could and probably should be 3-0 up at ht.

Edited by RockyBottom at 15:53:51 on 29th December 2018

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Re: Crewe

By Boromatt30/12/2018 09:21Sun Dec 30 09:21:20 2018In response to CreweTop of thread

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Disappointing result yesterday. It’s such a shame that the story of our season has been, winning one game, then losing the next two or three. Struggled with consistency in our form and performances.

I think it’s quite evident that Joel and Micheal in the midfield get overrun quite a lot, I saw that at the start of the season, but I think yesterday proved that massively. I feel sorry for the back 4, the amount of pressure they had to deal with yesterday was too much. It seems to me that in this league a lot of the teams have one really experienced midfield player along with a young player. The reason why I bring this up is, with a young player playing alongside an experienced player, it gives the side a bit more energy and the middle of the pitch. Take the win on Boxing Day for example, Iontton with Byrom, did we get overrun in the middle? No. But with Joel and Micheal playing together, both aren’t the youngest men in the division anymore, we seem to lose energy.

However, the sending off on Reidy was an absolute joke. When a player runs into a challenge like their right back did and Reidy reacts to kick the ball and accidentally caches their player it made it seem worse than it actually was because of the speed their player flew in at. A real lack of experience from the ref, very disappointing. But we can’t use the penalty and sending off as an excuse, we weren’t good enough yesterday and didn’t create many chances to get a point or the win.

January seems to be a very important month, a lot of games against lower places sides, a chance to get some points in the bag.

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Re: Crewe

By Sev29/12/2018 20:15Sat Dec 29 20:15:45 2018In response to CreweTop of thread

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Midfield is where we are losing games.

It's terrible.

Our defence is reasonable. Cuthbert is one of the best. Nugent and Wilko are good enough. Wildin and Hunt or Henry can are good enough.

Newton is good. Guthrie or Revell will do.

But our midfield is shit.

Put Seddon on the left that's that position sorted. He is good.

Right mid could be Kennedy of he's having a good day.

Byrom is static and too slow to be playing alongside Timlin. They both just sit and are easily dispossessed, caught in possession and little forward momentum.

We could accommodate one if we had a dynamic attacking goalscoring midfielder alongside them.

Today the formations were baffling. Chucked on all our strikers who just stood up top leaving. No width and just two slow midfielders sitting in front of the back 4. No chance of building any play as we had zero width or options. Forwards can't do anything if they don't get the ball.

Newton having to cover RB is not the best position for him.

We're over-complicating things. Just play our best players in their best positions and don't play both Timlin and Byrom.

Sadly we have little chance of the playoffs playing like today.

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Re: Crewe

By Ogs (Geoff Wode)30/12/2018 08:10Sun Dec 30 08:10:40 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Ever since Westley left for the second time it’s become apparent that we are deficient in midfield. More often than not, opposition teams will come to Broadhall Way and pass the ball through our static midfield and, when we have possession, there’s no short outlet as our midfield is again static.

This season I don’t think it’s down to the personnel as much as it might have been beforehand. I rate Timlin and Byrom. They are both neat and tidy and do the simple things well. But the current system leaves them exposed. I say current system, but it seems to be the one that our managers have persisted with for years. Ultimately, I believe we should have 3 players in central midfield, playing one up front. This would allow more movement in midfield when defending and attacking. Of course, this is also dependent on Dino instructing the players to move into space when we have the ball, thus avoiding 12 passes across the back 4 before Nugent tries to place it on Revell’s head from 60 yards.

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Re: Crewe

By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))30/12/2018 21:42Sun Dec 30 21:42:46 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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I’d understand the Byrom signing if he wasn’t starting. Maybe Dino got him mixed up with Bossie

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Re: Crewe

By Sev30/12/2018 22:00Sun Dec 30 22:00:14 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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When he signed I thought he'd be a good experienced player to have around the camp play every now and then. But he's played almost every minute of every game!

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Re: Crewe

By Ratman4630/12/2018 16:15Sun Dec 30 16:15:59 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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I liked the 4-1-4-1 formation we used when we went on that mad wining streak, Lee was the shield and it was a team that went forward, not a fan of an of the 4-2-4.

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Re: Crewe

By Ogs (Geoff Wode)30/12/2018 20:15Sun Dec 30 20:15:04 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Yes! That worked incredibly well. Hats off to Sarlly for that mad couple of months.

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Re: Crewe

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)30/12/2018 17:19Sun Dec 30 17:19:54 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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We should sign that Charlie Lee fella.

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Re: Crewe

By Deltic 2129/12/2018 23:16Sat Dec 29 23:16:35 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Doubly frustrating is that in theory the next 3-4 games should be a happy hunting ground for us. An ‘on-fire’ Boro could max those points.

And you just KNOW we’ll make a pig’s breakfast of all of it!

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Re: Crewe

By RockyBottom29/12/2018 22:49Sat Dec 29 22:49:47 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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I've been saying that all season. This is why I never rated Byrom. He is a luxury player, can pick a lovely pass but needs a workhorse alongside him if you want to do that. Timlin will not give you that.

Kennedy shouldn't be starting. Too predictable, so lazy, doesn't track back, gives the ball away so much. Much better as an impact sub. I would play Wildin in front of TV and Seddon in front of Hunt until we have better options.

Campbell Rice slows the game down too much and can't beat a player.

Felt so sorry for Cuthbert today, didn't deserve to be on the losing side and was on his knees at the end from having to do half Nugent's work for him.

Also, a bit of a joke that we don't have a goalkeeper on the bench.

Cuthbert, Seddon, Farman and to some extent Newton were the only ones who came out the game with credit today.

Crewe looked so shaky in the first 10 mins until they worked out we came for a draw (everyone back, no outlets) and never looked back.

Agree we completely lost our way with the very strange reshuffles of the second half.

Edited by RockyBottom at 22:52:03 on 29th December 2018
Edited by RockyBottom at 22:54:46 on 29th December 2018

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Re: Crewe

By SFCfox30/12/2018 08:22Sun Dec 30 08:22:01 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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You chat some absolute rubbish.

I get the impression if we don't win all 46 games and finish with maximum points you're unhappy.

Byrom and Timlin are two of the best centre mids in this league, streets ahead of Smith and Gorman from last season. They both need ball carriers, like a Dean Parrett (or a James Ball but nobody knows what he does).

Kennedy already has 7 goals this season and a handful of assists, i think that's a decent return for a wide player.

Your analysis of Byrom, Timlin and Kennedy suggests to me you don't go to many games.

Crewe have decent home form (they beat Lincoln at home on Wednesday) so this was always going to be a tough game.

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By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))30/12/2018 21:43Sun Dec 30 21:43:55 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Ye Gods

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Re: Crewe

By RockyBottom30/12/2018 20:02Sun Dec 30 20:02:37 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Not expecting to win every game but not to lose the last 4 games against Crewe.

I will keep saying it, you can't play Byrom and Timlin together, certainly not away from home.

IMO Kennedy hasn't progressed since he broke into the first team.

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Re: Crewe

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)29/12/2018 23:34Sat Dec 29 23:34:33 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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I take it you didn't see Kenndy V Colchester? Sacrificed his attacking flair to track and defend well.

He is a luxury player, on that you are correct, but you need flir to create, his close control is better than any other player in the squad. If he was more consistent and disciplined he'd be in L1. We simply don't have a technically better player.

He loses the ball because he is trying to create, beat his man or pick a fine pass. We don't want a team full of safe sideways passers. That's not how you win matches. His assist record is pretty good.

And are you seriously suggesting Timlin isn't a workhorse. I'd wager he makes more tackles/interceptions than most of his team-mates.

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Re: Crewe

By RockyBottom30/12/2018 19:58Sun Dec 30 19:58:07 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Kennedy isn't that good technically. He has a decent shot on his left for and a good first touch but is so easy to defend against as he is one footed and can't pass well at all. He hardly ever puts in a decent cross.

Timlin might work hard but it means nothing if he can't keep up with the pace of the game.

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Re: Crewe

By Steve 197029/12/2018 21:54Sat Dec 29 21:54:57 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Totally agree. We have made good signings elsewhere but to many of the midfield signings have not worked out.
Timlin is good enough but need at least two more this January to have any chance of a play off push and must keep Seddon if possible.

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Re: Crewe

By Balders (BALDOCKBORO)29/12/2018 21:00Sat Dec 29 21:00:16 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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Reckon we should appeal the red?

FWIW I think Timlin is easily good enough to anchor the midfield. Or Byrom.

Inclined to agree that as a pair they are probably not mobile enough to win us games but they should be able to protect a back four once we go ahead.

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Re: Crewe

By Sev29/12/2018 21:16Sat Dec 29 21:16:02 2018In response to Re: CreweTop of thread

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I've not seen it again, but from first viewing, it looked like the sort of thing you see quite often in games, player puts his foot uo to stop a ball and other player who kicks the ball goes into it, except there was no contact from where I was (admittedly the opposite side of the pitch).

But no, there is not much point appealing because they never accept a ref could have made a mistake (or in this case the fourth official as the ref wasn't even looking). Plus we don't play Reid so it won't make any difference.

Penalty also looked soft. Their bloke "jumped" between our two players who were squeezing him out of possession.

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Never a penalty.

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)29/12/2018 15:56Sat Dec 29 15:56:08 2018In response to CreweTop of thread

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So the commentary says.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By RockyBottom29/12/2018 16:02Sat Dec 29 16:02:21 2018In response to Never a penalty.Top of thread

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Couldn't really see from my angle but he ran through half our team before that, which kind of reflects my point above.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By RockyBottom29/12/2018 16:40Sat Dec 29 16:40:47 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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Looks like another 6 points to Crewe this season. So many poor performances out there.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By Bankerbob29/12/2018 16:45Sat Dec 29 16:45:33 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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Especially the ref if the commentary is a true reflection of events.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By RockyBottom29/12/2018 16:48Sat Dec 29 16:48:44 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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Well that's what Dino will say. We only have ourselves to blame for today.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By Bankerbob29/12/2018 16:54Sat Dec 29 16:54:33 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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Yes it sounds like one of our typical below-par performances.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By RockyBottom29/12/2018 17:06Sat Dec 29 17:06:07 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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Crewe aren't a good side, just more mobile than us. That is why they always beat us.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By SFCfox29/12/2018 17:07Sat Dec 29 17:07:50 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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They beat Lincoln at home the other day.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By Deltic 2129/12/2018 17:11Sat Dec 29 17:11:22 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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And now we’re only 1 point north of Grimsby, FFS! I mean, the chuffing indignity of it all...!

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Re: Never a penalty.

By SFCfox29/12/2018 17:13Sat Dec 29 17:13:39 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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It would be nice if every team hate Kurtis. He only seems to turn up if the crowd are on his back.

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Re: Never a penalty.

By RockyBottom29/12/2018 17:54Sat Dec 29 17:54:34 2018In response to Re: Never a penalty.Top of thread

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I'd agree with that.

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