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Share in our future

By Yogi7/5 17:51Tue May 7 17:51:37 2019

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Promotion dividends easy money

/www.stevenagefc.com/news/2019/may/stevenage-fc-share-in-our-future-tifosy-teaser-tues-7th-may-2019/

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Donnellyrd (Donnelly)14/5 18:21Tue May 14 18:21:15 2019In response to Share in our futureTop of thread

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/www.stevenagefc.com/news/2019/may/share-in-our-future-tifosy-equity-shares-pre-registration-tuesday-14th-may-2019/

25 pound a share. Minimum of 40 shares

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Sev14/5 20:13Tue May 14 20:13:19 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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Checking Companies House, the latest confirmation statement shows 324,800 shares in issue and looks like they are planning to issue new shares (12%).

They're valuing the club a £8.8 million. Not sure how they've come to that figure if it's £40 a share. Important to consider for me because if you're looking to buy and sell on the exchange, then we need to know how they're valuing the company i.e. what will make the value of the shares go up and who decides that on the Tifosy exchange? Is it a demand v supply led thing, or do they actually use financial performance data to revalue shares. ie. we report large profits so the share value goes up? I don't think I know enough how it all works to invest.

The latest accounts available show a balance sheet value of £181,000 so it's clearly not based on asset value.

Retained earnings went from minus £960,884 to minus £203,422 suggesting a profit for the period to 31 May 2018 of £757,462, so could be using a multiple of profits, but presumably that profit is largely down to the sale of Ben Wilmott, a one off that you might not normally take into account in valuing a company.

Obviously it's been valued professionally, not suggesting anything untoward, and ultimately the value of something is what people are willing to pay. Do I think it's a bit high as a potential investor, probably. And if it's a high initial value how likely is the value to go up even more, or will it just fall straight away.

Second point, if you buy 40 shares, then if there's 324,800 shares (plus 12% new ones) you're going to be owning about 0.01%. Hardly going to give you any real interest.

The attraction is based on the perks that come with it and whether you're willing to bet on us being promoted and doing well. If you're certain we will make the Championship then certainly it'll turn out a good investment.

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Owen14/5 20:26Tue May 14 20:26:33 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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Do we have the details of the perks yet? Couldn't see it on that link.

Cheers for the explanation, that's really helpful.

Edited by Owen at 20:27:10 on 14th May 2019

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Sev14/5 21:16Tue May 14 21:16:50 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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Wasn't really an explanation. Just some thoughts. I wouldn't rely on anything I've said to make a decision. You could be missing out on millions by not investing, or lose your investment if you do.

If I was to make a prediction based on nothing it would be if you invested a 1000 you'd probably sell at some point for 800 maybe get a dividend at some point and enjoy whatever the perks are in the meantime.

This is from someone who has never invested in shares. Someone like Lock might be planning it to add to his million pound portfolio. 😄

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Dave (daveadkins)14/5 20:17Tue May 14 20:17:54 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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Ah thanks for explaining it. It's so simple now.

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Owen14/5 19:32Tue May 14 19:32:09 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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How much when we make the Premier League?

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By Bladders (BALDOCKBORO)14/5 19:08Tue May 14 19:08:23 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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Tifosy link on the club website crashes repeatedly? Assume that's where it tells you the minimum investment?

Wonder what 'important issues' you get to vote on and what 'privileged information' they are going to share?

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Re: Share in our future: Details

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)14/5 18:33Tue May 14 18:33:17 2019In response to Re: Share in our future: Details Top of thread

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A grand? I'll have a quick dig down the back of the sofa.

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Re: Share in our future

By Pat (PatJ5)8/5 09:19Wed May 8 09:19:45 2019In response to Share in our futureTop of thread

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I'd be straight in there to invest, but did you see the crest at the start of that video? So tinpot! No way I'm putting money into something branded like that ;-p

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Re: Share in our future

By Gitts n Grattz8/5 09:33Wed May 8 09:33:19 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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SHARE IN OUR BEAR 🐻

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Re: Share in our future

By Owen7/5 18:15Tue May 7 18:15:23 2019In response to Share in our futureTop of thread

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Interesting. There's not enough information there to see exactly what it's all about. Anyone know any more?

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Re: Share in our future

By Sev7/5 20:35Tue May 7 20:35:56 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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It gives quite a bit of detail.

We'll be able to buy shares (probably a different type of share) and buy and sell them on a platform where they presumably have a value placed on them somehow.

So if we are doing well we can sell at a higher price. If we get relegated the price will plummet.

Plus a special dividend if we get promoted.

I'll register an interest, whether I'll invest depends on the detail and how it all works and minimum amount.

I believe in Dino and think we could get promoted to League One, if I did buy any, at that point I'd probably sell.

Like the north stand investment I'd be tempted to put on a smaller amount for all the perks and privileges, without worrying too much about the risk.

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Re: Share in our future

By AndyC8/5 08:22Wed May 8 08:22:40 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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So if we are doing well we can sell at a higher price. 

Presumably that bit is reliant on somebody else actually wanting to buy them at a higher price?

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Re: Share in our future

By Sev8/5 08:24Wed May 8 08:24:33 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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Guess so, depends what "platform" means.

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Re: Share in our future

By Owen7/5 21:14Tue May 7 21:14:16 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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Think I'm more a figures person. See all the detail, etc. Will be interesting for sure.

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Re: Share in our future

By Ogs (Geoff Wode)7/5 21:45Tue May 7 21:45:28 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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Could get uncomfortable for the manager if results start going against us and dividends start to fall. Not that they will, of course, cos Dino’s the man.

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Re: Share in our future

By BasingstokeBoro8/5 08:39Wed May 8 08:39:07 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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Do I take it this means we couldn't find any investment from outside parties despite all the 'interest' we apparently attracted.

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Re: Share in our future

By Hitchin Callling8/5 09:11Wed May 8 09:11:21 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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From memory all outside interest wanted to buy club outright.
Was hoping someone say like Ken Follett (given he apparently follows us) might of got on board limited to the 10% stake offered by PW.

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Re: Share in our future

By Gitts n Grattz8/5 10:22Wed May 8 10:22:09 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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Where’s Lewis Hamilton when you need him?

I checked ASDA car park...

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Re: Share in our future

By Bankerbob8/5 13:06Wed May 8 13:06:02 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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Should have gone to Nando's...

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Re: Share in our future

By Bankerbob8/5 09:30Wed May 8 09:30:10 2019In response to Re: Share in our futureTop of thread

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It will be interesting to see the finer print when it's available. However, as with any financial investment, there is an element of risk and the value of the shares can go down as well as up.

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