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Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Yogi20/11 11:18Wed Nov 20 11:18:53 2019

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/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50489424

not sure what this is referring to??

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The Club have Tweeted

By Ratman4621/11 15:41Thu Nov 21 15:41:54 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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About the FA Youth Cup tonight

and

The Club Shop is open.

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Re: The Club have Tweeted

By Owen21/11 15:42Thu Nov 21 15:42:39 2019In response to The Club have TweetedTop of thread

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#WeAreStevenage

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Westerly met Wallace today.

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)21/11 17:09Thu Nov 21 17:09:23 2019In response to Re: The Club have TweetedTop of thread

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Evidence is here

https://twitter.com/WaspBoro/status/1197562215378903040?s=19

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Re: Westerly met Wallace today.

By Paulio22/11 13:27Fri Nov 22 13:27:28 2019In response to Westerly met Wallace today.Top of thread

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Good work mate.

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Re: Westerly met Wallace today.

By Stevie Wonder (Geoff Wode)22/11 14:20Fri Nov 22 14:20:21 2019In response to Re: Westerly met Wallace today.Top of thread

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Alright mate. He isn't going to sleep with you.

Actually, he probably will.

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Re: Westerly met Wallace today.

By Paulio22/11 15:42Fri Nov 22 15:42:12 2019In response to Re: Westerly met Wallace today.Top of thread

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Already has.

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Re: Westerly met Wallace today.

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)22/11 15:58Fri Nov 22 15:58:12 2019In response to Re: Westerly met Wallace today.Top of thread

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Not sure falling asleep in the same urinal counts

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Re: Westerly met Wallace today.

By Ken Jude22/11 14:12Fri Nov 22 14:12:47 2019In response to Re: Westerly met Wallace today.Top of thread

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Labels are the wrong way round though surely!

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Copeysaurus20/11 16:53Wed Nov 20 16:53:22 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Poor caretaker. Hope he/she sues.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)20/11 13:57Wed Nov 20 13:57:06 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Bizarre.

Edited by Original Mr Wasp at 14:07:20 on 20th November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Freemo20/11 12:45Wed Nov 20 12:45:45 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Terrible timing, Mark was just about to turn things round. An unnecessary distraction from all the hard work the players have been putting in to produce on the field.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))20/11 14:37Wed Nov 20 14:37:40 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Excellent stuff. Staff writer on the Daily Stevenage??

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Freemo20/11 15:03Wed Nov 20 15:03:24 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Auditioning.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Pat (PatJ5)21/11 10:24Thu Nov 21 10:24:18 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Just send something in, they'll print any old shit ;-p

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By The Daily Stevenage21/11 12:15Thu Nov 21 12:15:30 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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It's true. We will.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Owen20/11 12:18Wed Nov 20 12:18:53 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Okay, well I guess we sack him if he's found guilty. If not guilty, we'll probably sack him because we're still bottom.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))20/11 14:38Wed Nov 20 14:38:55 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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All part of this 4 year master plan, which I calculate is just about ending. Yep. Things should improve very very soon

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Ratman4620/11 13:10Wed Nov 20 13:10:59 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Demoted to coach I'm going with, Oldfield promoted.

One more reason not for me to attend.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Pat (PatJ5)21/11 10:27Thu Nov 21 10:27:14 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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You can't take a half measure on this. Either he's guilty and you stop employing him or he's not and you keep him on.

I'm fine with the club reserving judgement until the FA has concluded it's judgement. I'd hope they were canvassing our players privately in the background to get their thoughts, especially those from ethnic minorities.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Ratman4621/11 13:13Thu Nov 21 13:13:48 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I'm just uncomfortable with it all, how it happened, how it got reported and how the club has tried to deal with it.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Hitchin Callling20/11 13:09Wed Nov 20 13:09:06 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Regardless of outcome PW may use it as an excuse to put him on gardening leave with Oldfield taking over, Probably not though given previous backing ?

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 11:51Wed Nov 20 11:51:43 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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'Aligate' resurfaced.
Club have backed MS so far on this, and I expect they will until the FA make a decision after 6 December on the "allegation by a former coach at the League Two club".

Maybe this is why Oldfield has returned as an option 2 if the charge is founded and the club forced to reconsider MS appointment.

Should make the Oldham game more interesting than it is already.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Cruffers20/11 11:59Wed Nov 20 11:59:24 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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They wouldn’t actually charge him unless they had enough evidence. They’ll have been investigating it since the Ali-gation.

This is only going to end one way.

Apparently all publicity is good publicity.......

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Elkding20/11 12:03Wed Nov 20 12:03:42 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Apparently, according to the PA Media, the charge is in relation to a player that we had on trial and were looking at as a transfer target.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Danny-da-Bass20/11 12:26Wed Nov 20 12:26:45 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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That’s what I thought it was IIRC. Comments along the lines of (but not verbatim) we don’t need another [.........] in the squad we’ve got plenty

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Thora20/11 14:11Wed Nov 20 14:11:12 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Not quite.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Willo920/11 15:52Wed Nov 20 15:52:41 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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It seems controversy follows Sampson around, he may be 100% innocent but again it's bad media coverage for Stevenage! The FA have charged him so it's now down to him/club to disprove the allegations. Oldfield looks like he's been bought in for a reason!!

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Ken Jude22/11 14:15Fri Nov 22 14:15:07 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Oldfield looks like he's been bought in for a reason!!

GW's asked for him as his number 2?

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 16:37Wed Nov 20 16:37:07 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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That's not how justice works in UK courts or tribunals. You don't have to prove you're innocent. The onus is on the 'prosecution' to prove your guilt.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 22:45Wed Nov 20 22:45:44 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Im sure you’ve got a better understanding of the law than me. Genuine question here can you be found guilty if it doesn’t go to court? Or is it still alleged to of happened because it’s not been tried in a court of law.

Is an independent investigation not valid because you need to be tried in a court of law? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/mark-sampson-racist-england-womens-manager-eniola-aluko-fa-football-coach-report-a8007001.html%3famp

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)21/11 06:55Thu Nov 21 06:55:57 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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A barrister concluded he was guilty on the balance of probabilities, so she thinks he 'probably' said it, based on the informationput before her. In a similar way that maybe you think that, but she probably had more, maybe all, facts before her.

That same conclusion might be drawn in a civil court, (who apply different rules of evidence and allow a right to reply under our adversarial system, whereas her investigation may not have done I don't know), it might not.

It would almost certainly fall way short of the burden of proof in a criminal court (beyond reasonable doubt so 99.9% certain he did it, rather than 51% certain in simple terms).

I wouldn't consider the linked case you refer to as 'proven' but given Mark 'regrets his use of language' in that matter I'd say he probably said something that he shouldn't have said, that was interpreted as racist.

Can you safely call him a convicted or proven racist ... not sure. But I wouldn't write it in a newspaper article. But then I have no formal higher legal qualifications whatsoever.

Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 07:10:56 on 21st November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Freemo21/11 07:29Thu Nov 21 07:29:27 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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People do get very caught up in holding an opinion on someone drawn from general observation vs convicting them in court. See also Evans, Chedwyn.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)21/11 09:07Thu Nov 21 09:07:38 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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It's almost as if trial by media encourages it...

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Ratman4621/11 13:14Thu Nov 21 13:14:35 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Plenty of people have been fired because of it which has later been unfounded or thrown out of court

Edited by Ratman46 at 13:14:51 on 21st November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Stevie Wonder (Geoff Wode)20/11 17:03Wed Nov 20 17:03:36 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Or the old bill to fit you up. 😎

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Richie Rich C20/11 19:13Wed Nov 20 19:13:29 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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its ok that handshake you taught me in the toilets should enable you to get off

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Pat (PatJ5)21/11 10:33Thu Nov 21 10:33:20 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Getting off from handshakes in toilets is frowned upon I hear.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Richie Rich C21/11 15:46Thu Nov 21 15:46:23 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Not frowned upon , I think that’s just the look of the watchers concentrating very hard on what’s going on

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Ratman4620/11 18:17Wed Nov 20 18:17:46 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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You did do it I heard #criminal

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Paulio20/11 16:23Wed Nov 20 16:23:26 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Of course he was.

Expect Sampson to go on gardening leave with Oldfield in charge.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox20/11 16:38Wed Nov 20 16:38:42 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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If so, what a fucking shambles of a season.

If he is found guilty then why have the club backed him from the start?

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Paulio20/11 17:05Wed Nov 20 17:05:15 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Innocent until proven guilty.

I imagine it still is rubbish, but the someone has gone to the FA.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 16:43Wed Nov 20 16:43:18 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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"IF"
Exactly IF, ..... thats Why .... until or if IF changes !

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Graham Westley’s Barmy Army N/T

By Elkding20/11 11:39Wed Nov 20 11:39:52 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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No text

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Thora20/11 11:37Wed Nov 20 11:37:09 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Well I, for one, am shocked.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 11:27Wed Nov 20 11:27:49 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I literally pointed this out a few weeks ago and got called a **** for being cautious of this appointment. With Sampson’s numerous usage of racist language surely he has to get sacked now

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 22:25Wed Nov 20 22:25:33 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Numerous is defined as more than 1.

An independent investigation found racist language was used towards Aluko and Spence https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/mark-sampson-racist-england-womens-manager-eniola-aluko-fa-football-coach-report-a8007001.html%3famp

An FA investigation concluded today Sampson has been charged with using racist language. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/50489424

Sampson said he forever regret use of racist language. And spent 6 weeks on a kick it out course. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/21/mark-sampson-says-will-forever-regret-use-racist-language-spent/amp/

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)21/11 06:44Thu Nov 21 06:44:30 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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So 1 and 3 on your list is the same incident.

And 2 is this charge which is unproven.

So it's 1 then, not numerous.

Are you genuinely stupid?

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199421/11 13:35Thu Nov 21 13:35:03 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Unproven in what sense. He broke FA rules in relation to language he has used. That isn’t unproven it’s come from an FA investegation. http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/nov/20/mark-sampson-charged-201119

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199421/11 13:32Thu Nov 21 13:32:55 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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1. Found Guilty by Independent Investegation

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/10/18/mark-sampson-found-guilty-racially-abusing-eni-aluko-drew-spence/amp/

2. Charged by FA for use of racist language https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/50489424

That’s 2 not 1. In regards to the 2nd incident he has broken FA rule in regards to E3 (1) and allegedly FA rule E3 (2) in regards to usage of language used. http://www.thefa.com/news/2019/nov/20/mark-sampson-charged-201119

That’s 2 incidents. 2 times he’s been charged or found guilty by an independent investegation.

Edited by bcb1994 at 13:33:12 on 21st November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox21/11 14:08Thu Nov 21 14:08:34 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Genuine question.. why do you hate Mark Sampson so much?

Racism isn't acceptable, but i get the impression you dislike him for other reasons too.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199421/11 14:54Thu Nov 21 14:54:45 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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The FA charges the independent investegation, the UEFA charges, the alleged Ebola comment, the alleged anti Nigerian comment Nothing more than, that. Why would I have an another motive?

This is why I’m not a fan and don’t think dragging this club through the dirt is doing any good. I feel if FA can charge and independent investegation can find wrongdoing in inappropriate language used by our manager we are better off without him at the club.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/21/mark-sampson-england-women-apologies-eni-aluko-drew-spence

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/50489424

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7705951/amp/Mark-Sampson-charged-FA-amid-racism-storm-alleged-Nigerian-defender-comments.html

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2018/mar/23/mark-sampson-banned-intimidating-female-official-metal-pole-england-women

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/mark-sampson-racist-england-womens-manager-eniola-aluko-fa-football-coach-report-a8007001.html%3famp

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox21/11 15:25Thu Nov 21 15:25:19 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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That's fair enough. In my opinion, although unacceptable, what he's done in the past has been dealt with by the FA he attended training courses etc...

If he's guilty a 2nd time then he has to go. I really hope he hasn't blown the chance we've given him.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)21/11 13:57Thu Nov 21 13:57:28 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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It's 1 'verdict'

and 1 allegation he has broken the FA rule(s).

It's not complicated. I've tried to explain it twice now.

I'm out.

Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 13:58:41 on 21st November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Richie Rich C20/11 19:16Wed Nov 20 19:16:32 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Which numerous examples are you referring to ? The ones he was cleared of ? The ones he is accused of but not proven ? Or actual factual ones that I’m not sure are real ? , just thought I would ask in case his lawyers contact the forum

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Puds (Chuds)20/11 13:04Wed Nov 20 13:04:17 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I would imagine there were other reasons for you being called a cunt.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 11:33Wed Nov 20 11:33:41 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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*alleged

By a sacked coach with no axe to grind...

Shouldn't we let the investigation and hearing take place before passing judgement? Bit old fashioned I know...

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 12:41Wed Nov 20 12:41:19 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Not the first time he’s been caught up in allegations of racism.

Is it still alleged if you admit it 🤷🏻‍♂️ And regret the use of the language you used.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/21/mark-sampson-says-will-forever-regret-use-racist-language-spent/amp/

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 16:38Wed Nov 20 16:38:44 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Irrelevant.

Previous behaviour has no bearing on this matter. Basic legal principle. (With caveats but you can look those up yourself).

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 18:30Wed Nov 20 18:30:14 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Morally it does.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Owen20/11 19:43Wed Nov 20 19:43:25 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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My favourite part of this thread is bcb telling Balders how the law works. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 22:31Wed Nov 20 22:31:22 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I literally didn’t even mention the law. Morally is it right to keep this man in charge after being charged by FA probably not.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 20:49Wed Nov 20 20:49:08 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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You need to understand it to avoid falling foul... Always worked for me.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox20/11 11:49Wed Nov 20 11:49:27 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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The club did say that the claim had no substance...

I hope he's innocent.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFA20/11 11:54Wed Nov 20 11:54:05 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I may be wrong on this, but I'm assuming that for the FA to have charged him on this they would have to have more evidence than the coaches word alone?

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 12:44Wed Nov 20 12:44:07 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Sampson is a saint in some fans eyes can’t do no wrong. Regardless of multiple people’s allegations and various FA rules broken in regards to racist language. Admits to it and says he’s learnt from it. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/21/mark-sampson-says-will-forever-regret-use-racist-language-spent/amp/

It’s as if fans don’t care as long as he can’t win football matches that’s all that matters. 🙄

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox20/11 12:46Wed Nov 20 12:46:18 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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We all wish to be as perfect as you. I bet your shit doesn't smell.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By James W20/11 12:50Wed Nov 20 12:50:05 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Thought I’d dip back in to see the views of some of our other fans on this divisive issue.

It’s somewhat comforting to see that amongst all this, Borochat remains a shining beacon of balanced, reasoned discussion. Even in the face of serious allegations against an employee of our club.

As you were...

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Richie Rich C20/11 19:17Wed Nov 20 19:17:53 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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My favourite post I have read today

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By bcb199420/11 12:47Wed Nov 20 12:47:57 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Carry on defending him. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/21/mark-sampson-says-will-forever-regret-use-racist-language-spent/amp/

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox20/11 12:52Wed Nov 20 12:52:04 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I'm not defending him. It's that you come on here acting like the holy one.

Bore off.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Freemo20/11 12:59Wed Nov 20 12:59:14 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Who amongst us can honestly say we've never been sacked for being racist? It's happened to me twice this week already, admitting it doesn't make me less of a man.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 12:04Wed Nov 20 12:04:08 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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" assuming that for the FA to have charged him on this they would have to have more evidence "

This is the FA we are talking about!

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Elkding20/11 11:53Wed Nov 20 11:53:29 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I said a while back that this won’t ever go away. He’s tarred and this will only ever end in tears.

It’s a PR nightmare and club have taken an astronomical and unnecessary risk here.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Burger King end their affiliation with us. In fact, I predict it.

Edited by Elkding at 11:57:04 on 20th November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Pete (PeteH)20/11 12:12Wed Nov 20 12:12:21 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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BK have their own problems

/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50486664

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 12:09Wed Nov 20 12:09:49 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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"In fact, I predict it."

Keep going...... Do you really want to see the club fail big time, just so you can say " i said so " and so beloved GW returns?

Careful for what you wish for, If PW says stuff it we will be the next Bury

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Elkding20/11 12:17Wed Nov 20 12:17:07 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Complete opposite, I don’t want it to happen. I don’t want any of this to distract from the main focus.

Yet, here it is again on the front page of sporting media outlets.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 12:32Wed Nov 20 12:32:43 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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"Complete opposite, I don’t want it to happen."

Fair play - glad to hear it but lets all keep a lid on it until the FA decides and then PW. No media storms please.

Edited by East Coast Boro at 12:33:47 on 20th November 2019

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Cruffers20/11 12:43Wed Nov 20 12:43:58 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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With modern social media, there's no way to keep a lid on it. It's already out there and causing a big media storm.

The FA has already decided, and that's why they've charged him.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 16:30Wed Nov 20 16:30:24 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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"The FA has already decided, and that's why they've charged him."

So on that basis if you are charged by the Police you should go straight to jail whilst not have a hearing or trial .... ummm ..... interesting

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Cruffers20/11 16:35Wed Nov 20 16:35:55 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Not obviously not (I watch 24 Hours in Police Custody), and similarly a charge is usually only raised if there is sufficient evidence against the individual.

And as I've previously said, given the FA's dealings with MS, I'd be amazed if they raised a charge if they weren't confident with the evidence provided/ gathered.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By WASP (Original Mr Wasp)20/11 18:05Wed Nov 20 18:05:34 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Nothing would surprise me with the useless FA.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 16:47Wed Nov 20 16:47:58 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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" I watch 24 Hours in Police Custody "

I retract my case ma' lord due to the learned gentleman's vast and expansive legal knowledge and experience in these matters ;-)

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Cruffers20/11 16:58Wed Nov 20 16:58:17 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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However, I also watch Line of Duty so I know that there is corruption everywhere.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 16:43Wed Nov 20 16:43:45 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Not necessarily.

An allegation has been made, it's the word of 1-2 people against the word of 1-2 others.

Both sides have a possible motive for their position.

There is a case to answer, there will be no 'proof' unless someone taped it. Which I doubt.

The FA will decide on the balance of probabilities whether he said what is alleged or not.

Both sides will probably have lawyers who will rip the other sides motivation apart.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Rob SBFC (Big Robbie (SBFC))20/11 20:25Wed Nov 20 20:25:17 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Someone at the FA very pleased to get to Sampson. I can’t see the club hiring him now. Could be EAW as he is tainted/no Shankly, PW gets a 65th chance to appoint a good experienced L2 manager, Ali gets his man, Sampson learns about groundskeeping for real - hopefully at a nice bowls club in Eastbourne.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Ratman4620/11 18:19Wed Nov 20 18:19:53 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Money we can't afford defending our "caretaker" manager.

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By Freemo20/11 18:52Wed Nov 20 18:52:12 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I mean, the main character in The Shining was a caretaker too.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By East Coast Boro20/11 18:51Wed Nov 20 18:51:53 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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It would be Sampson's lawyers

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By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 20:52Wed Nov 20 20:52:03 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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League Managers association subscription, they have a couple of very senior partnerships on a retainer, one criminal, one civil/contractual.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Cruffers20/11 16:45Wed Nov 20 16:45:33 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Yes granted, but it may be the word of 3-4 against the word of 1.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 16:47Wed Nov 20 16:47:28 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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But it isn't.

Allegedly.

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By Cruffers20/11 16:48Wed Nov 20 16:48:32 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Not that has been stated anyway.

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By Bladders (Wolfie) (BALDOCKBORO)20/11 17:08Wed Nov 20 17:08:19 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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If it was 3 or 4 against 1 PW would have booted him.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFA20/11 12:14Wed Nov 20 12:14:10 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Predicting that something will happen is not the same as wishing it will happen.

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Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FA

By SFCfox20/11 12:10Wed Nov 20 12:10:34 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I wish i could be an expert like a lot of people on this forum.

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By East Coast Boro20/11 12:35Wed Nov 20 12:35:18 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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You will one day be the wise one - feel the force ;-)

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By Ratman4620/11 11:41Wed Nov 20 11:41:17 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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This is 2019, guilty until proved innocent.

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By SFCfox20/11 11:33Wed Nov 20 11:33:28 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Shut up you ****

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By Donnellyrd (Donnelly)20/11 11:19Wed Nov 20 11:19:35 2019In response to Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I assume it’s the FAs conclusion to their investigation into what Ali U alleged

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By Yogi20/11 11:28Wed Nov 20 11:28:37 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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It seems so, bit more information on the link now

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By SFCfox20/11 11:22Wed Nov 20 11:22:47 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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Do we know what was said? The club has stuck by him, so now what?

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By Richie Rich C20/11 19:23Wed Nov 20 19:23:57 2019In response to Re: Mark Sampson: Stevenage caretaker charged with using racist language by FATop of thread

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I have no idea they all sound the same to me

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