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Lots will change of course with new signings to come and so on, but there is seemingly a lot of discontent at present so I am interested to know, right now, where do you expect us to finish next season? Do you genuinely think we will go down with the new appointment, or just drop down the table a bit? And where did you expect us to finish next season with Evans?
I had us dropping to 12th-16th next season under Evans, and expected him to fall out with everyone along the way, and be even more tedious blaming the officials and everyone else for our failings, so really was not too gutted he left.
I must admit I do now have us dropping a few more places than that and with the inexperience on the bench (and potential lack of good recruitment now), so at present I have us 16th-20th.
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I am amazed at the negativity of most of the comments in this thread. Yes, I think the appointment of Revs is a mistake (to answer Mutley I would have had Ainsworth or Morison, and if neither wanted the job I'd have looked at the likes of Wild and/or other over-achievers from the Leagues below). I would not have given the job to someone who had us heading out out the EFL despite having the likes of Luther, TVC, Reid and Norris at his disposal.
BUT...for two thirds of last season we were contenders for automatic promotion and we still have arguably the best defence left in League One under contract. That will do me for at least a top half finish. If we lose key players my view may change, but if that happens there will be serious money in the war chest, including the compo for Evans which Phil clearly hasn't spent. Using it wisely may be the key.
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Outside of having major doubts over Revell and the new management team, our second rate recruitment before Evans arrival, the main concern I have is whether we've been found out at this level. Our form since the turn of the year would suggest we might have.
In the second half of last season (from 01.01.24) we'd have been placed 14th, so not desperate in isolation and definitely a position I'd take now if offered. Looking at it closer, 4 of the sides below us in that form table will be in League 2 next season. Another is Charlton who you'd fancy to improve so you start to see it's not that unrealistic to see us struggling, particularly when you factor in the likes of Wrexham and Stockport coming up with all their money to spend.
If Evans had been in charge I'd say it was quite likely we'd have been active in the market and I'd have backed him to have kept us up fairly comfortably.
I understand the logic of keeping this group together, Evans built the squad and the recrutiment under his management was the best we've had in years. It makes total sense to try and hold on to that group rather than tear it apart and rebuild a more than likely poorer group. If we have been found out then we're going to struggle next season, particularly with the managerial set up we have.
I'd love for Revell to prove me wrong and I'm really hoping he will but I think his appointment is an incredibly misguided move by Wallace.
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I was wondering what future recruitment looks like under Revs. Whilst he was manager we signed both Reid and Andrade, which doesn't really help to evaluate.
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Not having a manager on the touchline for however many games didn't help.
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Eight.
15% of our matches.
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And yet... you couldn't have got your tongue any further up his arse with pliers.
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Hmm.
I seem to recall plenty of tweets about the number of games he missed, and our results in them.
Edited by Chuds at 19:12:49 on 16th May 2024
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Hardly makes the case stronger for Revell!
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The only one Revs did was the FLT. Raynor did the others.
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You've changed.
You'd have bitten hard a year ago.
Middle age is lovely isn't it.
x x x
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I'll let you know.
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Football fans are fickle. We'll win our first 3 games and then we'll become promotion favourites.
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It will be carnage if we lose the first three games.
I wouldn't be shocked to see that happen
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We asked 100 people to name something a driving instructor may say. You said:
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I think it'll be a tougher league next year. Recruitment will be key. We were really in form at the start of the season, but dropped off since February, and with the same group of players can see that continuing.
I think I'd be happy with top half in the circumstances, but realistically, expectations for me are solidly mid -table. 14th or something like that.
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I thought with Evans weād still be in top half. I envisaged him adding a couple of decent players and pushing on for an attempt at another strong season, but still falling short.
Revs on the current squad? 18th. Iād like to say he will keep us up - and probably will - but I also see us very easily becoming Carlisle. He may have learned lessons from Evans, but Iām afraid he really doesnāt have the gravitas.
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I am very close to your prediction.
I have no confidence any of our staff have great L1 level contacts.
For me, (aside from hanging onto our best players), so much depends on Banfield.
If he's a good coach capable of coaching L1 players to play in L1, we can finish 12-10th, building on a solid defence.
If we lose a few good players and Banfield can't do a L1 coaching job, we'll work hard every day, run miles every game and finish about 17th-18th.
Edited by BALDOCKBORO at 19:06:27 on 14th May 2024
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As it stands at the moment, I think the squad we have is good enough for a 14-18th finish. But we desperately need another decent forward to take the pressure off of Reid, and also the rest of the squad to chip in more as wellā¦ā¦agreed that this season would always be one of consolidation. Be good not to have SEās constant moaning about officials. A part of me thinks that when he says āthey donāt want little old Stevenage etcā it was actually that they donāt want āSEāā¦ā¦be interesting to see how his disciplinary record will be at Rotherham.
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It'll be "we're a big club, nobody wants to see us return to the Championship straight away"
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22nd.
A couple of our better players to leave this summer due to a lack of ambition, Revs to be gone by Christmas and we'll be scrambling around for new players in January trying to salvage our season.
We won't replace either Pidge or Reid if they leave, so we'll concede more and score less...
Believe it or not, I'm usually quite positive when it comes to Boro.
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14th this season
Would have been 18th under big massive Steve
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Revell gone by the end of August. Sheringham appointed interim boss but fields four ineligible players away at Barnsley and we are docked 12 points. Sheringham axed so Mark Sampson takes charge. Wallace ās Lamex foods goes into liquidation and the club.Into administration. All players leave. The club is sold for Ā£1 to the bloke who runs the cash and carry at The Oval. Phoenix club AFC Great Ashby Rovers is formed and joins the pyramid at Baldock and District League level. First home game next season is played on a roped off pitch at St Nicholas. Attwndance: 112
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It'll be good to see us have some winnable games and get the spirit back.
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Could get Stimson back too, that is about the level the useless twat manages at (and gets sacked from) nowadays.
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Donāt be sad that you missed all the fun times under him.
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If he brings Nutter and Dobbo with him I'm all for it.
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I thought for a moment there you were going to be negative.
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I think we'll avoid relegation (maybe 17th-18th) if Pidge remains at the club and injury-free. Probably a few places lower than if Evans had stayed mind.
One point where I'm a bit more optimistic on recruitment is contacts that Banfield may have for bringing in young loanees from a higher level.
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Iām not sure where the optimism over Banfield having contacts comes from.
Evans has contacts and can pull strings. Thatās whatās got us to League One letās make no bones about it. Heās like Harry Redknapp lite in that respect. Even if Banfield is in tight at Arsenal still (which I doubt as heās here and not there), thereās a limit on the number of players we can loan from a single club.
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Banfield
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Agreed, especially as he was appointed Assistant manager at Wealdstone to David Noble in January, they were both sacked in April after only 2 wins in 15 games !
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That slipped into his wiki page quietly!
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And also remembering the last time we got a loanee from Arsenal it was Jack Jebb and he was dogshit
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Not true.
Our most recent Arsenal loanee was Kaylen Hinds š
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I can't even remember him, which is probably worse!
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Played a few games for us before being sold (for decent money as I recall) to Wolfsburg at the end of that season.
Got released/sacked by them for going AWOL and was playing non-league football pretty soon afterwards.
Last I saw he signed for Hemel Hempstead. Still young too.
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Revs mentioned Banfield's extensive contact book during the press conference.
But as I said elsewhere, bringing them in and getting them to work is a whole other matter.
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Iāve got contact details to every in the country if the club wants it.
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Extensive geographically - it stretches as far north to Glasgow.
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But some of them players have prob more on elsewhere ?
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Agree on the Banfield thing then of courser Leon also has many contacts now
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Now the dust has settled I still canāt see Revs lasting till xmas.
With the squad he has got at the moment there should be at least seven teams below us however if the talk is true and we are selling key players I canāt see Revs influence in signing decent replacements.
I can then see us finishing in the bottom four and being down in March.
It all depends if Wallet is quite happy with what he has done and the new tv money is enough to soften the blow of relegation.
I hope I am proved wrong but nether the less I will still be there home and away.
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Revell with the current squad - bottom 8.
Evans with the same group bottom half but not relegated.
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Can't disagree with that. I think (maybe hope!) We won't be as tight to a relegation battle as 19th or 20th, so 14th - 18th with current squad.
If we lose Pidge, Reid and TVC we're fucked, though
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Iām trying hard to not be pessimistic. I think this squad will keep us up. Under Evans it would likely have been mid/lower mid-table. Iād also have expected more changes in playing personnel under Evans.
Thereās an element of me that thinks the playing squad being happy with Revs appointment comes from a place where some of them have kept their jobs here because of it.
I hope Iām wrong, but my concern comes from the standard of recruitment under Revs. Itās one thing to have the right profile of player to bring in, another altogether to have the pull to get them in the door. Evans has that, Iām not sure Revs does. Going forward that will hinge largely on how we perform too.
It was going to be a transitional season regardless, we could be in a position now where the next season will also be a transitional season though as Revs or another manager has to completely rebuild a team. Under Revell that could be a real disaster going by past experience. I so sincerely hope Iām wrong, Iād absolutely love for Revs to be a roaring success. More so than any other manager weāve had.
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Cannot disagree with a single word of that.
And as Sev says further down, next summer is the one that would concern me the most. Banfield may have the contacts, but getting them to join us, and them succeeding here, is another matter entirely.
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Sums up my thoughts pretty well. I actually think there's a danger we'll go down this season but am hopeful we'll have enough to survive but I don't see it being by much if we do.
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If Evans had stayed Iād have said with this squad 9th-13th.
With Revs and this squad 14th-18th.
However I expect some changes in the squad and Iām not sure theyāll be good ones. So 16th-20th.
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I warned you the other day about talking sense!
I would have hoped for mid table, had Evans stayed, depending on how quickly he fell out with people and started working his way out of the club, but perhaps with out the antics on the touchline we may get a few more points instead of letters of apology.
I will settle for staying in league comfortably, so anything above the relegation zone would do me, I'll go for a heady 18th
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18th.
Safe with a few games to spare.
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Somewhere around 18th-20th. I feel we need to start the season well to do any better, but fear we may carry on with the slump from the last couple of months of this season
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16th based on current squad.
It will be the season after I'll be more worried about if we do indeed finish 16th (or worse).
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I also think we lost our way under Evans as other teams worked us out. He could see it was not panning out right well before us but couldn't find a solution. Getting more and more frustrated with himself so took it out on the officials. It was a spiral downwards during the last couple of months not helped by the Evans touchline bans.
The team didn't play well when he was absent from the dug-out.m which didn't help either. Rotherham coming along was his get out of jail free card. Next season would most likely have been similar to the end of last season. So under Evans next season I would have thought midway league position 13th. Under Revell about the same, maybe a few places lower.
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I agree with this assessment apart from that I couldn't rule out Evans pulling some more rabbits out of the hat during the summer to turn things round. The margins last season weren't huge.
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I have us finishing 13th. At least we won't get Neil Warnock as he's just gone to Torquay in an advisory capacity.
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