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Games cancelled

By stone ragma13/3 15:17Fri Mar 13 15:17:48 2020

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All Southern League games cancelled tomorrow and next weekend

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Conference also

By VS Town (VS Boro)16/3 18:17Mon Mar 16 18:17:10 2020In response to Games cancelled Top of thread

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Hardly surprising; particularly after government advice and withdrawing emergency cover.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51911790

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All grassroots

By almost average 216/3 19:02Mon Mar 16 19:02:12 2020In response to Conference alsoTop of thread

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http://www.thefa.com/news/2020/mar/16/grassroots-football-suspended-160320

Not sure how far grassroots goes down assume it means everything .

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League Statement

By VS Town (VS Boro)13/3 15:47Fri Mar 13 15:47:53 2020In response to Games cancelled Top of thread

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I can't see any games for the foreseeable future.
The government did not go for "close down" as we are quite away from peak.


https://www.betvictorsouthern.co.uk/News/123927/ALL-SOUTHERN-LEAGUE-MATCHES-POSTPONED

All Southern League Matches Postponed
Further to discussions this afternoon, a decision has been taken that ALL BETVICTOR SOUTHERN LEAGUE matches will be POSTPONED between Saturday 14th and Saturday 21st March inclusive.

Therefore, there will be no matches taking place tomorrow (Saturday), next midweek or Saturday 21st March.

A review of the situation will take place next Friday, 20th March and everyone will be notified of the decision as soon as possible regarding the continuation or otherwise of the competition from Monday 23rd March.

In respect to the end of season date, that currently remains as Saturday 25th April but there will be updates on this website should there be any changes to that.

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 213/3 15:24Fri Mar 13 15:24:24 2020In response to Games cancelled Top of thread

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If the government have it right and we're still two to three months from the worst it's hard to see this season restarting / finishing . With so many clubs living hand to mouth it could be the end for hundreds of clubs at all levels .

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma13/3 15:29Fri Mar 13 15:29:21 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 1070

Agree, no one knows when games could be played again

Edited by stone ragma at 15:33:55 on 13th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By MJNB13/3 16:38Fri Mar 13 16:38:28 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Cricket season could well not start too.

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Re: Games cancelled

By Dougie814/3 14:00Sat Mar 14 14:00:09 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Don't expect it will. Australia v NewZealand cancelled today.

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)13/3 16:59Fri Mar 13 16:59:13 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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We are heading for a global recession.
We can't travel.
1,000,000s are going to get ill.
100,000s may die
We cant buy toilet roll.
We could all enter lock down in our own homes

but how can we manage without sport :) :) :) :)
I blame Brexit and Thatcher.

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 213/3 19:51Fri Mar 13 19:51:02 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Not life & death but it does matter to a lot of people . I'd guess it's ( sport ) more important to more people in the west than say religion . I can only imagine what the forums of clubs like Liverpool & Barrow are currently like .

Edited by almost average 2 at 19:52:50 on 13th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)13/3 23:06Fri Mar 13 23:06:56 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I heard on CWR phone in that piers morgan (that champion of life!!!) & richard keys both think this season should be scrapped and start again in August. Lenon wants Celtic to be given the title.

The latter is surprising given he is a CCFC supporter. The former is an arse and an arse(nal) supporter..... bet he would not think that if they were in Liverpools position.

Even if the leagues are done on points/game.... what about play-offs.

Barrow surprisingly are not as comfortable as it once looked.

Its complicated, but (I hope you read my post the way it was intended), but football is secondary particular as the governments advisors say that worse case 80% of population could get the virus and 1% of those leading to deaths (500,000).

Even best case is not good prediction, then I fear for the consequences of a global recession. As I said - I blame Brexit & Thatcher.

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Re: Games cancelled

By Dougie814/3 13:57Sat Mar 14 13:57:43 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I don't think we will play again this season. Virus not due to peak till June. The start of next season could be in doubt too if the papers are to be believed.

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Re: Games cancelled

By Wotnostrikers14/3 06:42Sat Mar 14 06:42:36 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 808

I blame Kelly and Shooter

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Re: Games cancelled

By Vernon Slain13/3 16:41Fri Mar 13 16:41:40 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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No Grand National.

From Saint Jimmies's Park.

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 214/3 14:11Sat Mar 14 14:11:33 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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The handling of this makes no sense to me . How am i any less likely to pick up the virus shopping , going the pub , cinema or a restaurant , all of which i'm free to do, than i would standing over the Boro with a few hundred others in acres of space . Some of the leagues that have cancelled are just about parks level , one man and his dog stuff . There's nothing to stop the players training , going the gym or any of the above so there no better protected . The only real argument unless you ban all the above and more is that sides would be playing weakened , and that could be assessed on a game by game basis . Obviously i'm only talking about our level and not higher up .

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Re: Games cancelled

By bert's dad14/3 17:32Sat Mar 14 17:32:36 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Perhaps they are protecting the players and staff as much as the fans? ‘They’ being the League(s).

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 18:21Sat Mar 14 18:21:25 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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The counter to that is to look at all the games that have taken place in Europe behind closed doors; this featuring players who have more contact (direct and indirect) with people who travel.

Bottom line is. no one knows what best to do. As much as it hurts me, I will base my view on the governments (informed) advice and they have not stopped public meetings so who are the SL to know better.

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 17:35Sat Mar 14 17:35:15 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 646

That makes more sense than the other reason posted on here!

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 15:15Sat Mar 14 15:15:46 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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The games at least higher up are being stopped to free up medical professionals who would need to be present if games took place

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 15:19Sat Mar 14 15:19:24 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I have not seen any reports to that effect.

Premier games certainly called off due to players situation, and the same reasons given for many of the conference games I have seen.

To my understanding. medical officials at football games would unlikely be working for the NHS at the time of games.
I am unaware of any government directive of NHS staff working extra hours.

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 15:32Sat Mar 14 15:32:31 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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If you had heard the news reports you would have heard several people say that the reason for calling off sporting events would be to free up medical professionals, indeed several experts said attending games would not have a significant effect with regards to spreading the virus but by not having sporting events on it would free up those medical professionals who would otherwise need to be at games

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 19:26Sat Mar 14 19:26:50 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I have done a search and THE ONLY reference to this was by Nichola Sturgeon. I would hardly call her "several persons".
I listen to BBC-5 a lot, and its been non stop reporting on this and I have not heard anything like that said.


First Minister Nicola Sturgeon advised on Thursday that gatherings of more than 500 people should be cancelled from next week to free up emergency services to deal with the coronavirus outbreak.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/scotland/51860864

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 19:44Sat Mar 14 19:44:59 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I can assure you it’s not just her

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 17:17Sat Mar 14 17:17:31 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 643

And what will all those freed up medical professionals be doing instead? My GP surgery is closed for the weekend as usual. I am certain that the staff are not working!

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 17:26Sat Mar 14 17:26:28 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 637

Ask the government it’s their idea

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 17:34Sat Mar 14 17:34:26 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 624

Source?
All that I have seen is talking heads saying lots of things but no official government announcement confirming that.
I am at a loss to understand what difference freeing up loads of St Johns volunteers would make to the spread of the virus.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 18:23Sat Mar 14 18:23:46 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 613

Source, listening to the news

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 18:25Sat Mar 14 18:25:50 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Which government spokesman said it? Come on, you must know as you passed the supposed reason on.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 19:07Sat Mar 14 19:07:16 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 617

It has been said on the news several times by different people, try watching the news

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 22:39Sat Mar 14 22:39:04 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Read the question. Which government spokesman said it? Try answering instead of obfuscating.
You know very well that not one official government spokesman has said anything of the sort.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 23:19Sat Mar 14 23:19:15 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 570

look for yourself

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 23:33Sat Mar 14 23:33:07 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I have and can find no supporting evidence for your inaccurate post. I have to conclude that you are either making it up or are a bit muddled between government spokesmen and talking heads.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 23:40Sat Mar 14 23:40:14 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 569

Not making it up and not muddled just watch a lot of news

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal14/3 23:45Sat Mar 14 23:45:01 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 567

And not understanding that there are official announcements and talking heads.
Just think about it, what difference have a few doctors,physios and St Johns made to the spread or treatment of the virus today? Do you really imagine that they are beavering away containing and treating?
Stick to football and stop with the stupid pronouncements.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

Edited by animal at 23:50:28 on 14th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 23:58Sat Mar 14 23:58:52 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Stop being stupid, it’s people like you who cause the spread by not understanding

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Re: Games cancelled

By animal15/3 00:09Sun Mar 15 00:09:05 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Me being stupid? You were the one who said that was why matches were postponed...because you heard it on the telly.
Its idiots like you who rush to buy up all the bog rolls and pasta because you heard on the telly that there may be a shortage. Try thinking for yourself instead of having your thinking done for you.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma15/3 00:31Sun Mar 15 00:31:43 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I can think for myself, been a health care professional for twenty two yrs

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 17:28Sat Mar 14 17:28:25 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 625

I have not seen anything about this from a government official. Certainly not connected with anything football related.

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 214/3 21:11Sat Mar 14 21:11:38 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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It only makes any sense to close down grass roots football if they also close down everything else that involves people getting together . I wonder how many of our emergency services are out working in the city / town centres tonight why not close down the pubs , clubs & restaurants . I have no problem with stopping sport as long they take a consistante stance with all other activities or it's totally pointless .

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 15:41Sat Mar 14 15:41:09 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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So, not any official reason.

I have heard people say loads of things including Johnson being too cautious and Johnson being over reactive.

Events have been called off by the organisers, and whilst it MIGHT free up resources that’s not the reason

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 15:43Sat Mar 14 15:43:25 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Had the games been called off by the government that would have been the reason, the football authorities pre emoted that and decided to call games of themselves

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 15:47Sat Mar 14 15:47:17 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

Views: 630

but, following advice the government have decided not to stop gatherings.
No matter what I think of Johnson, I trust his advisors more than I do football authorities when it comes to this.

I believe there will be more decroian measures soon, and for that end I think the southern league have acted too quickly.

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 15:10Sat Mar 14 15:10:40 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I agree, but when one club has one player showing symptoms then I feel the league would have to stop.

Given 10 out of about 30 Conference games are off today, perhaps playing today would have been the last weekend anyway.

Edited by VS Boro at 15:15:07 on 14th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 214/3 15:26Sat Mar 14 15:26:17 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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My point is it makes no sense to stop grass roots sport , not talking about the Premier league here then allow people to do anyone of dozens of other activities that bring them into contact with many more people . I realize it's not a government decision at this point but the whole handling of this seems shambolic with no proper plan in place .

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 15:37Sat Mar 14 15:37:43 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I am in agreement, but games being called off due to situation with players (as far as I can see)

What I am saying is that there are more and more instances coming to light outside the premier (1/3 in national called off today) so today would have probably been the last weekend anyway because once other clubs have instances the playing of league fixtures is stupid as postponements won’t be a one off

Edited by VS Boro at 15:38:52 on 14th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma14/3 15:28Sat Mar 14 15:28:47 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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No plan because it is so unknown, no one can say exactly what is going to happen, how many people will be affected or how long it will go on for

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Re: Games cancelled

By Dougie814/3 15:40Sat Mar 14 15:40:58 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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My sentiments exactly. Football or football clubs irrelevant when people's lives at stake.

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 15:44Sat Mar 14 15:44:01 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Yep.
Some have said Johnson should have done more.
Thing is, no one knows if not shutting the country down was a good or bad decision or even if it makes no difference.

Only sure way for me is to close everything for at least two weeks and then stop any body coming into the country for however long it takes for the world to get back to normal.

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Re: Games cancelled

By bert's dad15/3 09:02Sun Mar 15 09:02:22 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Which is fine provided the virus disappears after two weeks. This is going to be a long haul.

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 10:27Sun Mar 15 10:27:24 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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1st my suggestion, whilst I think workable is totally impractical.

Not at all. This virus has spread because of travel. UK is lucky as easier to secure borders.

If we can identify those with the virus; stop them spreading it then soon it will die out - All we need to do then is stop those pesky foreigners entering.

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My point was if we shut down the UK, and ban people leaving homes then it will be come apparent who has the virus within 2 or 3 weeks.
During this time, the virus would not be transferred (other than perhaps to those in the same home).

Those with the virus could then be treated at home or hospital until there is no evidence in the UK.
However, to stop is coming back no one would be allowed in the country.

Whilst I believe this will rid the country of the virus within (say) 4 weeks its totally impracticable.
HOWEVER, imagine if there was no possibility of surviving this virus. I am sure this would've be implemented.

Edited by VS Boro at 10:32:26 on 15th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma15/3 12:14Sun Mar 15 12:14:52 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Interesting listening to South Korean politician on tv this morning, they proactively started testing people and identifying those who had the virus and supporting them to get better, they also started preparing months ago by making sure they had sufficient testing kits etc, they have seen cases fall dramatically without needing to implement social isolation, they have also given citizens detailed up to date information on a daily basis

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Re: Games cancelled

By joetowny (Joe)15/3 12:16Sun Mar 15 12:16:43 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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simple question HOW do you know if you have it.

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 12:35Sun Mar 15 12:35:01 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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You don't.

If you have the symptoms (primary temperature &cough) you self isolate.
Even then, it could be something else.
If symptoms get worse and medical attention is needed you will be tested.


Yesterday, my legs ached a bit and I convinced myself I had a slight temperature..... I was fine (I think).

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Re: Games cancelled

By joetowny (Joe)15/3 12:48Sun Mar 15 12:48:16 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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cheers
in other words nobody really knows.
it reminds me of the guy who was released from the nut house after ten years
someone said to him " you must be mad "
he replied " no im not and i have a certificate to prove it, have you ? "

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma15/3 12:33Sun Mar 15 12:33:37 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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That’s one of the problems with our approach, there will be people staying at home self isolating because they think they have it when they don’t, and there will be people walking round thinking they haven’t got it when they have

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 12:38Sun Mar 15 12:38:51 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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And how can that be avoided OTHER than total shutdown of the country?

many are saying "we should all try and catch it and be dammned with it; just like chickenpox in the 60s and 70s".

When I say "many" I mean that **** who goes under the name of Katie Hopkins.

https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1238472333439971328

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma15/3 12:49Sun Mar 15 12:49:16 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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South Korean approach of proactively testing and finding the people who do have it and supporting them to isolate, not full proof but does seem to be more successful in reducing numbers of new cases. 900 at highest in February now down to 70

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 12:53Sun Mar 15 12:53:34 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I believe South Korea (due to vicinity) were effected by this virus earlier than the rest of the world.
As was explained by advisors on Friday. We are at a different stage.

I don't believe there are not enough resources to test everyone who may have it, so being used on those who are likely to have it.

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma15/3 12:58Sun Mar 15 12:58:38 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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That’s not the point, the point is by pro actively testing and identifying those that actually had the virus they have drastically reduced the number of new cases in a fairly short space of time therefore reducing the chances of getting the virus, Also they got themselves prepared in advance by making sure they had enough test kits and other equipment etc they would need,
Our government along with many others were far to complacent by not getting prepared when the virus came to light in China, South Korea did start preparing

Edited by stone ragma at 13:01:38 on 15th March 2020

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 13:02Sun Mar 15 13:02:41 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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If resources not available and symptoms not clear how do you identify?

I believe it’s possible to be a carrier with no symptoms.

The only way to be sure is to test everyone and that brings the 1st issue back (lack of resources)

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Re: Games cancelled

By stone ragma15/3 13:15Sun Mar 15 13:15:10 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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And that’s my point about South Korea being prepared, realising what they would need ie test kits etc, and putting resources in place as soon as they realised there were problems in China, they tried to be pro active not re active like we are

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 215/3 11:10Sun Mar 15 11:10:44 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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There are now concerns in places like Italy that as soon as they lift the restrictions the virus will just kick in again .

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Re: Games cancelled

By mark-nbfc15/3 11:33Sun Mar 15 11:33:27 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

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https://youtu.be/Bwk38srACrA

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 11:50Sun Mar 15 11:50:54 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Thanks for that (NOT) :) :)

Thats it - I am going out.
We are doomed so we may as well enjoy our final days. To think in the 70s & 80s we were worried about nuclear war; oh for the good old days when things were simpler :(

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Re: Games cancelled

By almost average 215/3 11:50Sun Mar 15 11:50:49 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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That an interesting read .
Just to make it clear the point i was trying to make yesterday was what's the point in calling off a football game in say the Leicestershire Senior league where there will probably be no more than 50 people dotted around a large open space then allowing millions of people to cram pubs , markets , shopping centres ect . Cancelling grassroots sport will make no difference at all to the spread if they are going to allow all these other activities to continue .

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Re: Games cancelled

By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 11:56Sun Mar 15 11:56:23 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I think all/most agree that cancelling games below Conf-national (or even below FL) was an over reaction.

Prior to Friday, games that had been called off was due to staff either contracting or been in contact with those who have.
I am sure I am more at risk tomorrow at work than I would have been at home at the game yesterday.


I keep saying I have no trust in this government, but they seem to have listened to the consensus of medial opinion and not panicked (yet).
Just compare that to Trump (Its a democratic hoax and obama to blame), then appoints a religious freak to co-ordinate.

How come the Southern League are more qualified than experts/government.
How dare they take the right of me to not go to games away from me :)

I have little doubt gatherings will be stopped, but I don't see any logic for the SLP to do so now.

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By stone ragma15/3 12:04Sun Mar 15 12:04:28 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Time will tell if the advice the Government is following is correct, there seem to be quite a few other scientists in this Country that don’t think it is

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By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 12:31Sun Mar 15 12:31:42 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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that always happens.

3% of scientists don't believe in climate change.
many "experts" in America think the world is 6,000 years old (including the man charged with dealing with the virus issue and is VP).
The (alleged) leader of the free world said it was a hoax.

As I keep saying, it hurts me but I do believe Johnson is doing as well as could be expected on this (bar one silly comment).
I am sure he, the government and advisors have listened to all arguments and based their decisions on this.
Of only he had closed the borders the day it became apparent there was a problem in China!!!!

Time will tell if we are following the right course - So many unknowns; so many other factors.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 11:18Sun Mar 15 11:18:27 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Yes, and spread again.
Its the logic of the government NOT to impose as to do so now is too early.


(I think my draconian proposal) said 3 weeks; perhaps it needs to be longer.

If you can ensure no one in the country has it, and stop anyone (or anything) coming in then the country is "safe", but isolated.

I am NOT proposing this by any means, but is a solution for the UK and easier because we are an island.

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By Vernon Slain15/3 09:22Sun Mar 15 09:22:21 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Quite right berts dad.
I fully expect that there will soon be restrictions on travel,roads etc.,and that Christmas will be cancelled.

From Saint Jimmies's Park.

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By almost average 215/3 09:48Sun Mar 15 09:48:39 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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The over 70's to be confined to their homes for up to four months will be next . How on earth this is going to be achieved .

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By stone ragma15/3 11:48Sun Mar 15 11:48:42 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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It’s not, over 70s are more likely to need to attend hospital or drs appointments for already exsisting conditions, they can’t all be seen or treat at home

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By mark-nbfc15/3 10:26Sun Mar 15 10:26:08 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Through people agreeing to do it, and if they don't some form of penalty through fines etc.

Support from neighbours, friends, family, companies to ensure people are fed.

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By Dougie815/3 18:26Sun Mar 15 18:26:51 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I am over 70. It would be impossible for me to isolate for 4 months. I live alone, need food need to go to the chemist for medication. I think after 4 months alone I would be off my rocker. I shall continue to go out and if I get I get it, but no sure guarantee that I will. I don't any poster on this forum would isolate for 4 months.

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By mark-nbfc16/3 10:08Mon Mar 16 10:08:58 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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The plan wont be for people not to go out, just to minimise any contact with humans.
Take a look at the pictures of Italians queuing 6 metres apart etc.

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By Wotnostrikers15/3 21:10Sun Mar 15 21:10:11 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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In the recent past I have been hospitalised for weeks on end if staying at home for a few months will save my life then I will do it gladly.
I can think of worse things and being in a 6 x 2 box is one of them.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 19:50Sun Mar 15 19:50:55 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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And that is a recognised problem.

I think the proposal has been very badly presented.
It does not mean 100% confinement, just avoid contact with people. If you can walk or have a dog then exercise is good.

In fact, just listened to a chap on radio. He is 70+ and cycles a lot (often going on 100s of miles holidays). His physical health would suffer.

I am sure people will help with things like food; thats what people do, and with internet there is less need for physical contact.

I am even sure local shops will somehow arrange to get shopping sorted and I would hope the big shops also make it easier and cheaper for those to get things delivered.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 10:30Sun Mar 15 10:30:02 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Mark; I am shocked.

some form of penalty through fines etc.

So those who are irresponsible and wealthy will be fine.

Unless it goes so bad we have curfews and military rule we have to rely on sensibility.

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By mark-nbfc15/3 11:29Sun Mar 15 11:29:54 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I'm not saying I agree with it, but that'll be one of the deterrents.

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By almost average 215/3 11:13Sun Mar 15 11:13:58 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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My dads in his 80's and still very active mentally , physically and socially . You would have to put iron bars on his doors to keep him in for four months whatever the risk .

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By mark-nbfc15/3 11:31Sun Mar 15 11:31:37 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I'm sure many will feel the same

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By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 11:21Sun Mar 15 11:21:51 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I am not dissing your dad in any way. My father was pretty much the same.

BUT, people like him (and not just elderly) are perhaps the problem BUT there is no solution to that.

From my own perspective. I have not changed my lifestyle one little bit. At work on Tuesday I had visitors and we all shook hands (natural) and then said "we shouldn't do that". This crisis is screwing me.... I even agreed with Trump when he said "shaking hands is a natural reaction to many"

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By almost average 215/3 11:35Sun Mar 15 11:35:25 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I was out and about nearly all day yesterday and probably infected far more people than if i had gone over the Boro , but what else are you meant to do until told differently .

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By almost average 214/3 16:19Sat Mar 14 16:19:32 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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This is my point . What is closing down grassroots sport going to achieve when everything else is operating as normal .
Suspect that will change soon mind you .

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By stone ragma14/3 17:15Sat Mar 14 17:15:34 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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If games were on would Covid-19 affect attendances!! It’s ok saying play games at our level but if fans don’t turn up what’s the point, we saw the other week how the weather affected the attendance when we got a game on, likely this virus would have affected attendances even more

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By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 17:24Sat Mar 14 17:24:09 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Will be interesting to see any effect on those games that did take place.

I am sure clubs would have rathered some income today than non.
We are often told how much postponements cost.

Also - not beyond the realms of possibility that these games won’t ever be played given peak not expected till may

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By stone ragma14/3 17:25Sat Mar 14 17:25:54 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Also there is a cost to putting a game on and if fans don’t turn up can also cost clubs,

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By animal14/3 17:21Sat Mar 14 17:21:58 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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We are all doomed!!!

The good news is that having vast stocks of bog paper will ward off the virus.

Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....

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By joetowny (Joe)14/3 17:43Sat Mar 14 17:43:58 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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can i ask a question here and believe me im not trying to be clever
flu ( or flu related ) accounts for about 20000 deaths every year in this country
how many do they estimate for this virus ?
ps obviously im talking about this country

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By stone ragma14/3 18:25Sat Mar 14 18:25:01 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Seen figure mentioned that deaths could be 10x what would be expected with seasonal flu each yr

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By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 18:11Sat Mar 14 18:11:39 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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An (worse case) estimate was 70% will catch the virus and 1% of those will die..... just a mere 500,000 death!!!!

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By mark-nbfc14/3 18:06Sat Mar 14 18:06:13 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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It is very very difficult to predict.

However......

The Chief Medical Officer said worst case is 80% of the population get it with a 1% death rate. Population is around 60 milllion people so 48 million could get it and 480000 could die.

Even if you half the worst case that's 240,000 people....

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By joetowny (Joe)14/3 18:26Sat Mar 14 18:26:04 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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so what is being predicted ( guessed/estimated ) in Nuneaton
say circa 70000 residents 80pc = 56000 will be infected
hence 560 will die from it.
lets all hope those figures are wildly off the mark

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By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 18:34Sat Mar 14 18:34:41 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/12/uk-moves-to-delay-phase-of-coronavirus-plan




Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer, said that worst-case scenario planning projected that 80% of the country would contract the virus, with a 1% mortality rate. This equates to more than 500,000 deaths.

The prime minister, Boris Johnson, said: “We have all got to be clear, this is the worst public health crisis for a generation. Some people compare it to seasonal flu. Alas, that is not right. Due to the lack of immunity this disease is more dangerous.

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By joetowny (Joe)14/3 19:24Sat Mar 14 19:24:28 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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a lack of immunity appears to be the reason for the greater danger.
no sport can compensate for the safety of the individual

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By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 19:27Sat Mar 14 19:27:59 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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My hope is in few months time people will criticise the authorities and media for over-reacting.

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By catch2216/3 11:32Mon Mar 16 11:32:27 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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2/3 weeks time it will all have blown over and we will all think wtf was that all about. Idiots will be left with hordes of bog roll ,soap and mouldy pasta.Bet ya

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By Dougie816/3 17:05Mon Mar 16 17:05:39 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Where did you get that info from. I have not seen it.

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By Wotnostrikers16/3 12:09Mon Mar 16 12:09:16 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Not remotely funny

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By catch2217/3 09:16Tue Mar 17 09:16:01 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Not supposed to be funny . The media will be bored soon . 182000 have contracted it world wide , world wide population is 7.8 billion hardly a pandemic is it . The common cold kills 500000 every single year . Not long until we are back to brexit ,isis ,knife crime or some other fear mongering.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)17/3 10:52Tue Mar 17 10:52:31 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Macmillan say cancer kills about 250,000 pa - we take that seriously

WORSE CASE figures is this could kill 500,000 in U.K.

Read so many cases of “it’s not as bad as people making out”
I wonder if the same would be said if it targeted the young and healthy?

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By mark-nbfc17/3 09:49Tue Mar 17 09:49:00 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Jesus.

How long is 'not long' in your eyes?

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"Prof Neil Ferguson, from the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College, who worked on the study that led to the government announcing its far-reaching suppression strategy yesterday, also denied that the government was acting too late. He told the Today programme:
I think we are still behind the epidemic seen in other European countries, so there’s always a balancing act involved in these sort of measures in order to balance the impact of those measures, the costs on the economy against the impact on the epidemic.

I overall think we have got the timing about right.

I think we’re about three weeks or so behind Italy, two weeks behind France and Spain, so we are making these decisions in a more timely manner than other European countries but certainly there wasn’t any time to lose.

Ferguson also said that, looking at what was happening in Italy, his team had concluded that the UK could face 250,000 deaths if the government did not escalate its social distancing strategies. He explained:

Initially when we came up with these sort of estimates they were viewed as what’s called a reasonable worst case, but as information has been gathered in recent weeks from, particularly Italy, but other countries, it’s become increasingly clear it’s not the reasonable worst case, it’s the most likely scenario [assuming no change in policy]."

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So just the additional 250,000 deaths (rough population of Portsmouth) on top of everything else then...

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By catch2217/3 09:55Tue Mar 17 09:55:39 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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It's all could , might ,maybe . It's not facts !

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By mark-nbfc1/4 17:22Wed Apr 1 17:22:12 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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563 covid-19 deaths in the UK in the last 24 hours.

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By mark-nbfc17/3 10:08Tue Mar 17 10:08:07 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Facts usually arent determined until after the event and that would be too late.

But you do you, and carry on in some comfortable inertia in the hope that things work out. And I truly hope they do and we can all laugh about it at a Boro game in the future

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By VS Town (VS Boro)17/3 10:54Tue Mar 17 10:54:04 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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How I hope we all point the finger at Johnson and say be over reacted

Thing is, his reaction may be why we will think he over reacted

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By joetowny (Joe)17/3 10:18Tue Mar 17 10:18:36 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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the problem is there is no known cure to stop it spreading
apart from isolation
stating the obvious i know but stamping it out will be incredibly difficult.

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By Greg (NBFC)17/3 13:31Tue Mar 17 13:31:27 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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"apart from isolation"

Sorry, Joe, but isolation does not stop it spreading unless it's permanent. As soon as the isolation is lifted, people will mix again and their will be another outbreak.

Of course, if immunity can be spread through people who are infected but don't suffer serious symptoms then the pool of potential infections is reduced for the future.

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By joetowny (Joe)17/3 14:41Tue Mar 17 14:41:28 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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sorry joe !
no worries Greg :-)
im one of the lesser mortals on here :-)

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By Greg (NBFC)17/3 21:34Tue Mar 17 21:34:51 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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I think I am just below you on the ladder of acceptability, Joe ;)

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By joetowny (Joe)18/3 08:37Wed Mar 18 08:37:01 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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NAH. think it would have to be a play off decider for the wooden spoon :-)
maybe we are cleverer than some in so much as it takes a clever man to know his own limitations
so so many self appointed experts abound.

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By MJNB17/3 10:25Tue Mar 17 10:25:54 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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agree, I can't see this just suddenly disappearing by the April 3 date that has been put in place for a lot of things.

Can see the whole cricket season being wiped out, and maybe even the start of the 20/21 football season.

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By catch2217/3 10:12Tue Mar 17 10:12:06 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Since December 182000 have contracted it in 4 months . See you down the Boro in April 😀

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By mark-nbfc25/5 22:09Mon May 25 22:09:57 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Hope that you're well Catch22.

Did you mean April 2021? ;)

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By joetowny (Joe)17/3 09:45Tue Mar 17 09:45:36 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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not being funny ( no pun intended ) but i can see where your coming from
in Nuneaton apparently TWO people have died from it over a two week period both with underlying symptoms
what we dont know is those same two could have died anyway without a passing thought FROM THE MEDIA.
lets all hope that it is not as serious as some who are painting a black picture envisage.
i accept im in a high risk group
maybe i will get it
maybe ive had it
maybe ive got it
hopefully i wont get it
who knows

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By joetowny (Joe)14/3 20:37Sat Mar 14 20:37:47 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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i think we all have that hope.
maybe just maybe this will inject a bit of realism into the world leaders that we just cant keep multiplying
the world is overcrowded now.
it is multiplying out of hand and has been for some time.
wars politics religion go out the window on this one
think the above is just about my first opinion on a non football topic
its got a marvelous chance of being the last.

UP THE BORO.

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By mark-nbfc14/3 20:20Sat Mar 14 20:20:14 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Except the 'over-reacting' measures might have contributed to stopping the virus being as damaging/deadly.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)14/3 21:49Sat Mar 14 21:49:39 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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That’s what I was getting at

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By mark-nbfc14/3 18:33Sat Mar 14 18:33:35 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Fingers crossed. It's very hard to predict accurately though, its all being worked out in real time.

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By almost average 215/3 09:46Sun Mar 15 09:46:24 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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Surly our governments tactics on this is build up a herd immunity . For this to happen they need a large percentage of the population ( the less vulnerable ) to actually catch the virus and build up an immunity within society and so eventually protect the more vulnerable . So surely they need people to mix for this to occur .

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By VS Town (VS Boro)15/3 10:34Sun Mar 15 10:34:44 2020In response to Re: Games cancelled Top of thread

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There is not 100% proof yet that you can't catch this twice.
Some reports state people have.

Also - Need to stress NOW that it hurts me to say I think Johnson handling this right BUT is our policy ;)

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