Today's Line Up
Breeden ,Cotton Gudger Egenguele Kettle Edmunds Shamsi Lita Brown Dias Tomkinson
Subs: Hood Landers Ruff Dunbar Neligwa
O dear embarrassing not a good day at the office for our goalkeeper !!! so painful to watch.
Edited by blueandwhitemad at 11:41:50 on 27th September 2020
Watching these highlights and talking to a fan who went it looks to me like we somehow managed to lose a game we should have at least got a draw from if not won . If your going to miss a pen and your keepers going to have a nightmare i'm afraid it's highly likely your going to get beat .
There were enough chances for both sides to win it; Boro probably shaded them (including a long pin ball type sequence).
Bredon made other errors, and more than once they tried to catch him out from a very long distance..... his reputation for playing like a sweeper goes before him.
With him coming out so often he is going to be caught occasionally and even catch the attacker. I think the risk far outweighs any perceived benefit of his attempted long passes.
One of the positives from the game for me was Leroy Lita, two great finishes for his goals,
Still a class act at 35.
I didn't see it like that. Lita finishing was spot on, but didnt seem to contribute like Harewood did.
REMEMBER - I think Harewood was playing league football the season before Boro where Lita has played games at (I think) same/lower level.
Think Harewood was more mobile than Lita is now, that said if he can get himself in the box and score goals that’s the main thing
IF Lita does that regularly, I think it could be the end of Benbow at Boro'.
Can't see both starting week in, week out, although personally the more natural finishers on the pitch the better. Two clinical strikers is great if the service is right
From what I have seen of Lita in pre season don’t expect too much, he is not the most mobile, legs look like they have gone in terms of making runs, think when Benbow is fit he will be back in
Amazing though - he seems fitter and slightly more mobile than brown
Brown looked decent when he was at Kiddy but seems to have gone downhill since then, maybe needs to stay at one club for a while and hopefully find some form again
would not be surprised to see Benbow make a surprise appearance from the bench tonight against his old club if we are searching for a goal.
Don't think he's fit enough yet mate unfortunately
Benbow sub on 88
Benbow goal 90+2
You heard it here first.
Yes please :)
Edited by stone ragma at 13:40:15 on 28th September 2020
I liked the way Lita seemed to enjoy the goals . I always got the impression with Herewood that he was being professional but was just seeing the season out . Lita seems to really enjoy still playing .
question. whats all this " i dont fancy Lita " talk
i seem to remember similar with Harwood and dont forget Williams ( same ) Ironside too.
why do people love knocking or doubting our goalscorers i dont get it.
Leroy scored TWO away goals saturday
you know what i dont have a problem with that
two more tonight would be perfect ....
or even one would suffice... which means they have to score two to win... sadly they probably will
but thats not his department.
Don’t think anyone said they don’t fancy Lita, just recognise that he doesn’t have the legs anymore
ok straight question. do you or dont you fancy him ?
if he gets this club say 15 goals this season that will be a big plus.
not saying he will but lets just see how he goes eh.
I'm with you Joe.
Admittedly I'm yet to see Lita play. But I'd rather a 15 goal a season play who doesn't leave the eighteen yard box/sprint than a headless chicken.
Ian Muir didn't run marathons, but he did win us points and ooze class.
Lita only played about a dozen games in the last two seasons for a reason. I suspect he signed as a bit player but needs must.
Modern football requires movement. Ian muir played behind 2 of 4 or 5 excellent strikers.
im not championing him im just spelling it out as it is.
his playing knowledge for this standard must be second to none.
he wont need anyone ( like Harwood ) to tell him how to do it.
he will need support all strikers do
and yes he will imo need some legs up with him
he seems like he wants to play and be part so for me at the moment thats good enough.
things change quickly in football hence never say never
Straight answer I think a fit Benbow will score more goals, that isn’t to say Lita won’t contribute, with his experience he still has something to offer
yes i would probably agree with that
age is definitely not on his side
as for Benbow last season he played in a side that imo was as difficult as any to play for.
we didn't need a goal getter we needed a miracle man.
too lightweight in midfield often overrun + weak fullbacks, the norm.
hence had little or no support at times.
sometimes the obvious fall guy
" wait and see, we will see etc etc " whatever the terminology lets hope lessons have been learnt.
Edited by Joe at 17:21:27 on 28th September 2020
Indeed. Breeden apologised to the rest of the team for two errors which cost them a point or three. See Dave Sharpe's interview with JG.
Only went as my son was coming up from London.
At the back they were as poor as boro, and 3-2 was a surprisingly low score line.
Boro defence was a shambled, and whilst Kettle came off, the back 4 was no really weakened.
I am a champion of 442, but playing 2 wide players (a right footed player on the left, and the other who I feel is better suited as a striker BUT the stand out threat in 1st half) is foolhardy, particular with the lack of quality in the other 2 midfield players. This left it wide open for the defence to be put under pressure.
People will point to injuries, which is fair.
Benbow apparently was unfit when he returned and Brown does not look fit.
Even with injuries I would say the 11 who started were probably man for man (and £ for £) better than KL.
Bredon was poor and at fault for all 3 goals.
1) Seemed to fancy playing at left back and got caught (not for the only time in 1st half)
2) Was beaten on a 1-on-1 header vs hards chance; Went to punch and missed it
3) Beaten by a very long shot and went down very slow (I initially was surprised he had punched it for a corner....then the net bulged). Not only was it a long way out, but there was a very strong wind that would have held the ball up.
I try (andI admit often fail) and take into account the level the club are at, but last season and what I have seen this Boro are very much a Southern League club. There seems very little direction/tactics/thought/plan and it (again) seems like players are signed because they are available and they turn up every game to play football....whilst that is clearly true at every level, the set up does not make it look much different to parks football.
In some ways Boro are now equals to the likes of Kings Langley, Barwell & Biggleswade.
The main saving grace is that I think the club are "lucky" to be in this league given the situation above.
I could well see Boro' back in Conf-North next season as I fear for many clubs at that level. I would not be surprised to see Conf North/South/Midlands next season.
JG weakness as a Manager is definitely tactically, with the players we have and a Manager who is tactically aware and organised we should challenge for this league,
A very worrying observation considering the manager can keep his job as long as he likes regardless of performances or results.
and we have missed a pen
worst forum poster ever
Anyone know Belford number !!!!
All 3 keeper mistakes
Three goalkeeper mistakes.
Given the plaudits for Breeden earlier.
Not good enough full stop . Goalkeeper thinks he is a outfield play far too often for my liking he should stay on his line a bit more and let the defensive players do there jobs .
Edited by blueandwhitemad at 12:13:52 on 27th September 2020
To be fair he's been very good since he joined us and everyone has an off day it just shows up more if its the keeper .
As a former (poor) keeper I agree with that wholeheartedly.
was not there so cant really comment
apart from the fact if you miss a penalty make goalkeeping errors
and are light in midfield ( im certain we are ) your ALWAYS going to struggle particularly away
Edited by Joe at 17:18:54 on 26th September 2020
I really enjoyed early March to mid September. Now its back to the weekly disappointment of following the twitter feed detailing the latest Boro’ comedy/disaster. Will the good old days of a settled first X1 that can actually play football ever return? Or am I being too harsh, given the level we are at?
Too harsh, I think. Injuries.
Fair enough. I’m just very disappointed to see yet another poor start to a season.
A draw, win and loss?
Is that not a mixed start?
Edited by mark-nbfc at 17:43:43 on 26th September 2020
At this level of football, with the calibre of player we have and reduced budget to probably be in line with the rest of the league, it’s a poor start.
Maybe I’m living in the past but I am never gonna accept conceding 3 against the likes of Kings Langley, and losing to them three games in a row is good enough.
Again, fair enough. I would just like us to record a nice stress free 3-0 win.
That would be fantastic!
You don’t get promoted with an FA Cup win, League draw and loss
You don't win or lose the promotion in three games either.
You don’t win or lose it in two games, think it will be another season of consistent inconsistencies
Edited by stone ragma at 18:15:32 on 26th September 2020
Its the same every season .... Hype it up.... Good signings.... then failure to deliver from the off.
Difference this season I guess, not many season tickets sold (due to circumstances) and fans will vote with there feet later, giving less income over the season.
Spot on with that assessment could not have said it better myself disappointing result today a bogey team for us , hope I am proved wrong though. After all its all Jimmy's and Lavs signings this time around or so we are told. Positive results are all that's required to get out of this league nothing less, easier said then done it seems. Early days yet without going overboard lots of injuries to a few key players does not help but then again all teams have them do they not, you have to live with it and crack on. Win Monday will put things right...here is hoping.
Edited by blueandwhitemad at 19:13:50 on 26th September 2020
Stourbridge 2 wins out of 2. Always there or thereabouts. Gonna be tough.
Yes a poor start to the season as usual.
Kings Langley must love playing against the Boro, that's three league wins out of three!
Another season of mid-table mediocrity beckons.
Re: Tactical genius
are we surprised?
worst forum poster ever
Re: Tactical genius
Nope, missing our 3 best midfielders, probably too reliant on Shamsi upfront ( as we were Benbow last season), young inexperienced lad at right back, probably need better defensive back up than Hood.
Re: Tactical genius
What other options were there given the players available?
Re: Tactical genius
When I posted that I didnt realise how close to the end of the game it was.
That said, there were still 3 strikers on the pitch.
Armsden, Baker, Benbow, Kelly, Kelly Evans, Goddard, now possibly Kettle.
Gonna need a bigger treatment room.
Another game Monday night.
Up the Boro
Re: Injury List
tbf that list is a tad unfortunate.
very early doors, no need to panic
however criticism is part and parcel of the game
whether your JG or a top league manager it goes with the territory.
remember one important thing nobody ever won a league or got relegated after two league games
think i will keep my powder dry for now, if you get my drift.
40 games more than enough time to put matters right
if not then the criticism will carry some weight
Re: Injury List
"think i will keep my powder dry for now, if you get my drift"
I do Joe.
Let's wait and see :)