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Are we all just going around in circles?

By VoR1/12/2021 09:47Wed Dec 1 09:47:19 2021

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Surely, we all appreciate what the current set-up is at the club?

Until we are told otherwise by JG/JD it's business as usual...

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By VS Town (VS Boro)1/12/2021 10:13Wed Dec 1 10:13:56 2021In response to Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I am not sure we are aware.

Often it seems the first team is an “add on” to everything else.

Who is “pulling the strings”. ?
Are the extras self sufficient or taking resources?

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By VoR1/12/2021 10:16Wed Dec 1 10:16:08 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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We have to assume that JG is pulling the strings & that everyone else is working for him.

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By MJNB1/12/2021 10:10Wed Dec 1 10:10:21 2021In response to Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Here he is :)

I have nothing against Jason at all, sound bloke, but what authority does he have?

Can he, as chairman, go 'Jimmy, board meeting, we are letting you go as manager' or does Jimmy decide who is manager?

Edited by MJNB at 10:11:47 on 1st December 2021

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By ntfcadam (nbfcadam)1/12/2021 10:45Wed Dec 1 10:45:26 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I believe Jimmy calls all the shots and Jason is there just to take some of the workload off Jimmy.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)1/12/2021 10:54Wed Dec 1 10:54:49 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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https://www.pitchero.com/clubs/nuneatonboroughfc/contact

I believe the
.......Manager - All things to do with 1st team.
.......Commercial manager - bringing in money.
.......Secretary - Administration
.......Chairman - ????
.......events manager - Implementing initiatives of the commericial manager.
are all paid positions. Add to this the assistant manager and 1st team coaches

What does the owner actually have to do other than sign things for companies house?

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 11:42Wed Dec 1 11:42:38 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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To be honest, I think you may be really oversimplifying and downplaying the amount of work required to keep the club running.

It would be really interesting to see a week's diary of each club 'employee', and what they have to do. I think we'd all be surprised at the amount of tasks and things that need to be done.

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By joetowny (Joe)1/12/2021 12:47Wed Dec 1 12:47:27 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Mark i dont think that anyone or at least most do not underestimate the hard work
people are putting in and i include Jimmy in that statement.
im pretty certain hes doing everything he can to make the club prosper.... AGREED
BUT what people are saying is no matter how crap or how bad the club do on the field
we should put up with it because Jimmy wants to play at football manager and owner.
irrespective.
ive said on numerous occasions it just dont work long term.
NOBODY can convince me you can be a manager with no accountability.
and like it or lump it thats what were getting
thats what fans are up in arms about.
there is as far as im aware no vendetta against Jimmy
dont think i can name one poster on here who doesn't think off the field hes doing a cracking job.

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By MJNB1/12/2021 13:28Wed Dec 1 13:28:32 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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+1

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 12:54Wed Dec 1 12:54:59 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I dont think we as fans should 'put up with it' at all, but Im interested in what the actual workable solution to the current situation is? I dont see any viable answers to that currently.

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By MJNB1/12/2021 13:30Wed Dec 1 13:30:22 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Controversial view here, but as Jimmy doesn't seem to want to stand down as manager, he needs to look at who is around him.

What good has Hinks done since arriving? Nothing personal against him, but we've been shite. What contacts of a decent calibre does he really have?

If Jimmy is staying, which I fully believe he will, part ways with the coaching staff and look at alternatives- eg Cowan.

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By VoR1/12/2021 13:33Wed Dec 1 13:33:38 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Maybe the club can't afford him to stand down as the manager.

I assume he wants to draw a wage from the club?

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By MJNB1/12/2021 13:35Wed Dec 1 13:35:23 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Do you read the posts?

I've not said the manager should stand down. I've said the assistant needs changing.

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By MP231/12/2021 13:36Wed Dec 1 13:36:27 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Agree, issue might be will anyone decent work under JG

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By VoR1/12/2021 13:41Wed Dec 1 13:41:33 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I've suggested before, that one answer would be for him to move upstairs & for him to appoint a new management team.

At some point he has to 'grow' in his role, if the club is to grow?

For that to happen, the club clearly need to be able to finance such a move & if that is ever to happen, it would need to be a case of timing...

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 13:45Wed Dec 1 13:45:10 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Would you give up a job you have wanted all your life for one you do not want?

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By VS Town (VS Boro)1/12/2021 16:38Wed Dec 1 16:38:56 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Lets hope someone far more famous, and with no connections to football (other than a game at wembley) does the same :)

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 16:54Wed Dec 1 16:54:57 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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For some reason I thought that was at Old Trafford.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)1/12/2021 16:56Wed Dec 1 16:56:05 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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You may be right (god - that was hard to type)

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 17:51Wed Dec 1 17:51:58 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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You really should have that ready to paste in as yiu have to type it so often :-)

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By MP231/12/2021 14:11Wed Dec 1 14:11:53 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I might if I knew I was crap at it

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:13Wed Dec 1 14:13:50 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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What if you felt if A, B and C were changed you would be a success and were also working to fix A, B and C?

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By MP231/12/2021 15:45Wed Dec 1 15:45:20 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Seems to be that JG has the ability to run the club as he did at Atherstone and Barwell ie he got some mates to put some money in, unfortunately what worked at Atherstone and Barwell is not working for Boro ie the level of finances he brings in from his mates probably is not enough to sustain a successful club at this level or above.

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By MP231/12/2021 14:15Wed Dec 1 14:15:42 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Well if he is he is making it worse, on the pitch,

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By VoR1/12/2021 13:46Wed Dec 1 13:46:52 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Technically, he wouldn't be giving it up.

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By Greg (NBFC)1/12/2021 14:22Wed Dec 1 14:22:09 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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VoR - do you not understand? Jimmy wants to be manager. He's apparently not that bothered about being owner - that was dropped on him by the previous owner. If he hands over the management to someone else, he is giving up the job he wants to concentrate on one that he doesn't really want.

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By MP231/12/2021 14:42Wed Dec 1 14:42:48 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It wasn’t dropped on him he chose to take it on

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:49Wed Dec 1 14:49:23 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It was dropped, he was manager when it was dropped, if he had not picked it up, we very very very likely would have gone there and then.

Thorn did not care who took over when he ghosted the club, Smurthwaite was never able to take over fully and wanted shot ASAP, Hawkins was out of his depth and had to walk away. JG was the result of all of those decisions.

There literally was no one better, if even anyone else at all.

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By MP231/12/2021 14:59Wed Dec 1 14:59:20 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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My point still stands he did not have to take it on, he chose to

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 15:07Wed Dec 1 15:07:40 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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From talking to him around the time, I got the impression he felt he had no choice.
It was him or the club went pop.
So while you feel he chose to take it on, he may not see it as he had no choice but to take it on.

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By VoR1/12/2021 15:11Wed Dec 1 15:11:39 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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That is still his dilemma.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 15:16Wed Dec 1 15:16:20 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Is it a dilemma if one feels there is only one choice?

His dilemma is what he does now.

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By VoR1/12/2021 15:19Wed Dec 1 15:19:06 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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The alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

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By MJNB1/12/2021 14:57Wed Dec 1 14:57:34 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Hawkins had to walk away, or was forced out?

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 15:04Wed Dec 1 15:04:16 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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He could not afford to stay. The club couldn't afford for him to stay.

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By MJNB1/12/2021 15:08Wed Dec 1 15:08:07 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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so he opted to leave? Or Jimmy and consortium took over/told him to leave?

No-one knows the ins and outs other than those directly involved I imagine.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:08Wed Dec 1 14:08:17 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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But if he stops being manager, it would be his choice, so it would.

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By VoR1/12/2021 14:15Wed Dec 1 14:15:25 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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He would still have control of the budget & ultimately have a say in which players would be signed.

I would like to see him working alongside someone like Gavin Cowan but let Gavin appoint his own football management team.

Working together as equals with mutual respect but with defined roles.

If we are to progress upwards thro' the leagues, he will need experienced people around him who know the National League/National League North set-up.

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:23Wed Dec 1 14:23:01 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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You still seriously want him to sign players. His track record isnt very clever

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By VoR1/12/2021 14:25Wed Dec 1 14:25:50 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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No, someone like Gavin Cowan would recommend the players for signature & JG would assess whether they are affordable, within budget?

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:16Wed Dec 1 14:16:52 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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1, he would not be manager, so he would give that up
2, Cowan wasn't a success in his last post
3, we do not need people with national league or national North experience we need someone e who knows this level.

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By VoR1/12/2021 14:18Wed Dec 1 14:18:12 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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We already have someone who knows this level!

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By VS Town (VS Boro)1/12/2021 16:43Wed Dec 1 16:43:06 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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There are many managers such as ALadice, Scholskier, Warnock who knows the premier very well..... no way would they be given the job at Liverpool or City or Man United or England..... oops.

Seriously - JG may "know" this level but success was staying at this level.......something I think/hope he will achieve this and many seasons to come.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:21Wed Dec 1 14:21:36 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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There is more than one person who knows this level.

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 13:46Wed Dec 1 13:46:10 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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If he doesnt want to be owner, step down then. Nothing is stopping him.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:06Wed Dec 1 14:06:48 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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OK, who will be owner then?

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:21Wed Dec 1 14:21:49 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Based on hawkins basically anyone can.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:23Wed Dec 1 14:23:47 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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And based on Hawkins, not just anyone should be.
Should we try to learn from the bad decisions of the past, or just keep repeating them.

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By Greg (NBFC)1/12/2021 14:23Wed Dec 1 14:23:06 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Yep - that worked out so well that it's worth trying again!

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 14:03Wed Dec 1 14:03:13 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Need to think about the bigger picture here.

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By VoR1/12/2021 13:49Wed Dec 1 13:49:57 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It shouldn't be one or the other.

JG has a wonderful opportunity at the Boro to build something memorable but if he insists on being the manager or there's nothing else at LW for him, then in my opinion he is being very foolish...just my opinion.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:07Wed Dec 1 14:07:43 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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You say it shouldn't be or or the other, but you don't want him to do both jobs.

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By VoR1/12/2021 14:20Wed Dec 1 14:20:14 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Technically, he can still do both jobs but structured differently.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:22Wed Dec 1 14:22:10 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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So you don't want him to stop being manager then.

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By VoR1/12/2021 14:31Wed Dec 1 14:31:49 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I want him to be Director of Football (all football within the club).

In my opinion, if he brought in an experienced team manager it would give him technical support.

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By MJNB1/12/2021 13:54Wed Dec 1 13:54:10 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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The best Boro' managers recently had good assistants.

Wilkin owed a lot of his success to Cunningham, Gillard, Noon etc.

Rather than look at JG leaving every time we lose 2 or 3 games, look at what he surrounds himself with. That's an issue, IMO. What are these players learning off the coaches? Bates I believe is a good influence though, as he was a good technical footballer

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By MJNB1/12/2021 13:47Wed Dec 1 13:47:20 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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''Nothing is stopping him.''


He doesn't want to be responsible for the club folding. Rightly.

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:03Wed Dec 1 14:03:01 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Put the club up for sale then. I understand he turned down a offer for it. So he must want to do both.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:09Wed Dec 1 14:09:18 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Sell it to someone who may not be suitable and have the best of intentions?

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By Jebbs1/12/2021 14:08Wed Dec 1 14:08:49 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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. I understand he turned down a offer for it.

Please... tell us more.

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:18Wed Dec 1 14:18:50 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Got told by someone (who i trust) whos been going for a very longtime and never misses a game. That he was offered money to leave and rejected it.

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By MJNB1/12/2021 14:26Wed Dec 1 14:26:02 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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If someone offered me money to leave my house, I wouldn't if I didn't think it was a decent offer and right for me and my family.

He shouldn't just accept any old offer.

I'm more happy with the situation of management/ownership, but come on, have some realism.

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By Jebbs1/12/2021 14:24Wed Dec 1 14:24:40 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Did the person you trust say why he rejected it?

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:31Wed Dec 1 14:31:07 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Nope.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:35Wed Dec 1 14:35:20 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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That would be a key bit of detail for me.

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By Jebbs1/12/2021 14:34Wed Dec 1 14:34:38 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Yeah that figures

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:37Wed Dec 1 14:37:40 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Surely you have to see that this current situation is a shambles. Or are you happy with how the club is set up???

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By MJNB1/12/2021 14:59Wed Dec 1 14:59:01 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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do you just want anyone to take it over and ruin it though?

It has to be the right owner, why go from one shitstorm, to repairing it OFF the pitch, to another?

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 15:04Wed Dec 1 15:04:51 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Think im just getting pissed off with the situation. Im not thinking about everything of what could happen.

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By MJNB1/12/2021 15:08Wed Dec 1 15:08:33 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Understandable to be fair.

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 14:46Wed Dec 1 14:46:07 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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The current situation on the pitch is not very good at all to say the least.

How the club is currently set up is very much a work in progress. I believe it has the makings of being quite a good set up needs to be more formalised and ownership distributed amongst a group of people rather than one person. But that takes work and willingness which takes longer than to establish than people think.

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By MP231/12/2021 15:02Wed Dec 1 15:02:46 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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The problem with the current set up is that it is funded by a bunch of the owners mates who have allegedly said they will walk away if JG goes, no one else has come forward that would establish the club on a more solid footing so I’m not sure how the club can progress

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By VS Town (VS Boro)1/12/2021 16:45Wed Dec 1 16:45:19 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I have heard the "bunch of the owners mates" is not as true as it perhaps was once.

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 17:09Wed Dec 1 17:09:26 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It never really has been.

Plenty of sponsors/investors have been involved before JG became involved too

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By uneatonburo1/12/2021 15:30Wed Dec 1 15:30:09 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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No text

Harry Broadhurst was my Headmaster.

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 15:02Wed Dec 1 15:02:01 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Jimmy as been owner for three years now. Why asnt a board been set up??? Thats if they want one. Why are these investors/sponsors giving money and basically saying get on with it. I would want a say in what is happening but these people trust jimmy so much they are letting him have free rein.

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By Breadline1/12/2021 20:57Wed Dec 1 20:57:52 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Whilst Adam Hayes was Chairman, he created a plan, and a board of Directors. He had to walk away for personal reasons and since JD was appointed, in his place, JD has took the unfortunate road not to acknowledge this board. IMO.

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By MP231/12/2021 21:01Wed Dec 1 21:01:02 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Begs the question what authority does JD have, as Owner surely JG is the one who has the say on everything

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:41Wed Dec 1 14:41:48 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I am not happy with how things are going on the pitch.

But I do not think the club should be given away AGAIN to someone who doesn't have the ability to make things better.

If I offered JG a tenner for the club, do you think he should take it and hand the club over to me, with no checks or questions asked?

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:58Wed Dec 1 14:58:05 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I understand what youre saying. Think im just frustrated at what is happening on the pitch and it cant be changed is making me angry and i want it changing asap. I'm not thinking of all the scenarios what could happen maybe

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 15:06Wed Dec 1 15:06:02 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I think we are all frustrated, but I am.not sure JG walking away is the best option right now.

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 15:18Wed Dec 1 15:18:48 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I apologise to everyone on here. Just been on a rant since last night. Just frustrated with results and the club isnt in the position to make a change unless well everyone knows by now lol

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By VoR1/12/2021 15:22Wed Dec 1 15:22:30 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Stick with it.

A lot has been done to try to stabilise the club in a very short time & that has been successful.

We are now a Community Football Club.

Our priority now must be to stay in this league this season & progress from there...little steps.

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 15:29Wed Dec 1 15:29:33 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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"We are now a Community Football Club"

I disagree. We are Ltd company that is (rightly) becoming more community focussed/minded. To class ourselves as a 'community football club', we'd need a structure in place which supports that. We dont have that currently.

See The FA club structures guide here

https://www.thefa.com/get-involved/player/clubs-and-leagues

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By VoR1/12/2021 15:38Wed Dec 1 15:38:31 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Fair comment.

Perhaps I should have said aspiring to be a Community Football Club.

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 15:21Wed Dec 1 15:21:34 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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No need to apologise to me, I think many, if not all, Boro fans are frustrated at the on-field performances of late.

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 15:20Wed Dec 1 15:20:37 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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No need to apologise Boroboy.

We are all frustrated at the current situation. Its because we all care and want the best for the club.

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By MP231/12/2021 14:45Wed Dec 1 14:45:10 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Well you know better than anyone on here so I think you should give it a go, but I would only offer him a fiver :))

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:50Wed Dec 1 14:50:45 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I know nothing about running a football club and, most importantly, I do not want to.

And thank you for thinking I know more than anyone else on here, but I do not, your words are kind, but wrong.

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By mark-nbfc1/12/2021 14:04Wed Dec 1 14:04:14 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Football clubs are always up for sale.

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By Boro boy1/12/2021 14:07Wed Dec 1 14:07:07 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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not if the owner doesnt want to sell

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By The_Hullablue1/12/2021 14:12Wed Dec 1 14:12:49 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Everyone has a price.

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By joetowny (Joe)1/12/2021 13:09Wed Dec 1 13:09:16 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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i think if you read my comments we are as one on that score

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By Lord of the Manor1/12/2021 10:20Wed Dec 1 10:20:00 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It's only my opinion, but Jimmy decides everything ...

From who he appoints to who gets the dog shit up.

He is above and overall everything

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By joetowny (Joe)1/12/2021 10:59Wed Dec 1 10:59:39 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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YUP. think your right.

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By Halftime2/12/2021 09:28Thu Dec 2 09:28:51 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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We constantly hear that if JG goes the sponsors also will walk out too. Is that a fact or hearsay? I do wonder if it is a bit of bluffing to keep JG as owner but maybe they would still support the club?

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By MP232/12/2021 21:14Thu Dec 2 21:14:20 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Certain investors have said they would walk if JG was no longer at the club

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By Halftime3/12/2021 10:49Fri Dec 3 10:49:14 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Yes I know but my point is are they bluffing?

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By Greg (NBFC)3/12/2021 10:50Fri Dec 3 10:50:40 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Is there any reason to think they are bluffing?

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By Halftime6/12/2021 07:45Mon Dec 6 07:45:18 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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No not really Greg but one of the companies I owned once had investors threatening to pull out if the management were removed but didn't go through with the threat so I wondered if this could also be the case.

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By joetowny (Joe)2/12/2021 09:40Thu Dec 2 09:40:57 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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as i said somewhere answers on a fag packet.
you could well be right mate.
of course the big problem arises if he goes and the backers go with him.
what we dont know of course was he loaned monies or was it donated
knowing business people im leaning towards the loans situation.
also what we dont know is the club self sufficient ?
are people needing to put more money in ? douht it.
fwiw i think the playing side is being run on a shoestring.
but again i dont know as not being privy.

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By VoR2/12/2021 10:00Thu Dec 2 10:00:37 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It is a difficult situation, because it is still very early days.

Perhaps the club is not yet in a position to formalise a Board of Directors?

Maybe JG's backers/investors are happy with an informal arrangement?

JG has appointed JD as Chairman of the club.

Longer term, in my opinion, the club will need a Board of Directors at some stage & more people getting involved with the ownership of the club, including the Supporters Co-operative.

All that said, we are probably quite a way off that as yet & performances on the field will be a big factor in the decision making.

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By joetowny (Joe)2/12/2021 10:17Thu Dec 2 10:17:44 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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all i will say is i cant see the on field situation improving under the present set up.

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By VoR2/12/2021 10:30Thu Dec 2 10:30:36 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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We need to concentrate now on putting a team out on the field that can avoid relegation from this league.

I checked out the Northern Premier & Isthmian Leagues yesterday & there are clubs at the bottom of those leagues who are in a similar position to us, struggling for points.

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By VS Town (VS Boro)2/12/2021 14:01Thu Dec 2 14:01:03 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Not only that - it seems the same in every league - just as Newcastle and Norwich

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By The_Hullablue2/12/2021 13:58Thu Dec 2 13:58:29 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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There are teams at the bottom of other leagues that are struggling for points?

Well I never!

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By VoR2/12/2021 14:12Thu Dec 2 14:12:33 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I'm talking about it in the context of the Boro finishing third bottom...read on...

With the Boro's fairly decent goal difference we are in a better position than some other clubs in the bottom half of the table.

Anyone from 11th place down could be drawn into a relegation battle...

Edited by VoR at 14:12:51 on 2nd December 2021

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By joetowny (Joe)2/12/2021 11:29Thu Dec 2 11:29:43 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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wow really !!!
do you make these statements in jest or to get a reaction

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Re: Are we all just going around in circles?

By The_Hullablue2/12/2021 13:59Thu Dec 2 13:59:04 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Should have read other replies before making mine!

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By VoR2/12/2021 11:33Thu Dec 2 11:33:30 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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It's the harsh reality we now find ourselves in I'm afraid.

If results don't go well in December, we will more than likely find ourselves in a mini-league of 5 or 6 teams fighting against relegation, comes the New Year.

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By MJNB2/12/2021 11:36Thu Dec 2 11:36:39 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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With 6 teams in this league (us included) not yet averaging 1 point per game, I'd say we are already in that mini league.

Stourbridge, St Ives, Boro, Redditch, Hitchin, Lowestoft.

Every other side at least gets a point per game, and in the lower end of that table, that makes a difference.

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By Halftime2/12/2021 11:17Thu Dec 2 11:17:34 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I don't understand your logic there VoR. Every league has clubs in the bottom places struggling for points otherwise they would be in that position?!

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By VoR2/12/2021 11:29Thu Dec 2 11:29:04 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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As I understand it, this season if you finish in the bottom two you are relegated but the third bottom club to be relegated will be the worst performing team of the three leagues, based on points per game.

So, we have to keep an eye on the Northern Premier & the Isthmian Leagues.

The likes of Cray Wanderers etc.

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By VoR2/12/2021 14:08Thu Dec 2 14:08:07 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I forgot the Southern League Premier South!

So, as I understand the situation, it will be the worst ranked third bottom club (on points per game) out of the four leagues that goes down...

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By almost average 22/12/2021 14:19Thu Dec 2 14:19:59 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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What your saying is we also need to be looking at the relegation positions in the other three step 3 divisions as we could go down third bottom if we have a worst record .

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By VS Town (VS Boro)2/12/2021 16:12Thu Dec 2 16:12:42 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I think its bottom 2 (times 4) PLUS 1

SO....
NPL - 19th Nantwich - 19 points from 18 games (Better than Boro)
SLS - 19th Kings Langley - 14 points from 20 games.
ISM - 19th Cray - 15 points from 20 games.
SLP - 19th Lowestoft - 16 points from 20 games.

(cant remember but I dont think special dispensation for SL-C (due to one club fewer).

I will stick my head out...... the extra place will be from SL-S
18 Dorchester Town 21 6 1 14 21 30 -9 19
19 Hartley Wintney 18 4 4 10 24 41 -17 16
20 Kings Langley 20 3 5 12 20 31 -11 14
21 Merthyr Town 19 2 5 12 20 41 -21 11
22 Wimborne Town 17 1 4 12 13 34 -21 7

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By VoR2/12/2021 14:21Thu Dec 2 14:21:48 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Yes, if I am right in what I am saying?

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By almost average 22/12/2021 14:25Thu Dec 2 14:25:21 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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Not sure of the exact position but yes you are .

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By VoR2/12/2021 14:29Thu Dec 2 14:29:18 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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I've just checked the 3 leagues & ironically Kings Langley are really struggling in the SLP South. They could be our saviour if it comes to it?

There are a number of contenders in the Isthmian but the NPL looks strong...

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By almost average 22/12/2021 14:36Thu Dec 2 14:36:22 2021In response to Re: Are we all just going around in circles?Top of thread

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As far as i can make out the bottom two defo go then the third bottom club across the four divisions with the worst record based on PPG . Ironic with Kings Langley they were desperate to move back to the South appealed got their wish then have gone from play off contenders to relegation strugglers . The old saying about be careful what you wish for comes to mind .

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