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40% stake in the club sold!!!!!!
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Heard a rumour today that someone to do with cov city has bought a 40% stake in the club. Supposed to be a announcement next week. Has anyone one else heard this????
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Its interesting/scary how a single post and rumour on an anonymous forum can almost become truth so quickly
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yep only asked if people heard the same thing. never said it was true or not. its only rumours at ive heard off a couple of different people. so i thought id ask on here about it. gives us something to talk about tho. keep the forum alive abit during the off season
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Absolutely, I love a good rumour and has sparked a good discussion
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How come when i believe the Boro don’t own anything to sell.
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A football club playing at Step 3 of the non-league pyramid holds some value.
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Re: 40% stake in the club sold!!!!!!
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What, and how much.
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Depends on the buyer.
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Re: 40% stake in the club sold!!!!!!
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...& hope value.
Our rightful place is at Step 2, with the hope of playing at Step 1.
Anyone with a good knowledge of the Boro & its tradition & proud history will realise that!
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No such thing as rightful place
Tradition and proud history ? Do they play up front how many goals do they get us a season ?
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Is he Chinese?
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Presumption of male gender.
Is it known ?
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It all depends on how he/she/it identifies him/her/it self.
Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....
je pense, donc je suis
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Re: 40% stake in the club sold!!!!!!
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Correction He/She
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Let us wait & see if there is an announcement.
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If there is a new shareholder, it could need to be updated on Companies House. It will depend on if they have over 25% shares and/or voting rights attached to the shares.
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Re: 40% stake in the club sold!!!!!!
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Great advice!
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I heard this a few days ago. The figure I got was 49%. My source is not reliable.
Could be just a game of Chinese Whispers.
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also bringing in a director of football with him
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Helicopter 🚁 landing pad required ?
Is our new future-proof stadium up to speed on that one I wonder ?
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Put that cost option below the line on the Cost Plan.
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Is it VoR ?
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i can confirm its not me
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That's our groundshare sorted when we get turfed of LW .Maybe not Cov don't own their ground either .
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sounds a step forward if "true" ? small word BIG meaning
someone must have a plan of sorts
unless your an idiot you dont chuck your money at a dead duck.
the thing is about the Boro the catchment area is massive compared to many of the minor clubs.
and yes i know we've heard all the counter arguments on here day in day out, year in year out.
but that is still a true fact.
engaging and harnessing it is the obvious problem... as we all know
who knows....... again i say if true ???????
never say never in football.
interesting though
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If true this would probably help to answer why the club have been so quiet since the end of the season .
There are people who will say what's in it for him / her / them but there are people out there who just want to own / run or be involved in a football club and are prepared to pay out just for the pleasure .
I'm with you joe i'm prepared to take this as a positive until i know different . I suspect others won't but something has to change or we just face more of the same long term .
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Yes, but history tells us to be sceptical and let actions speak (even then, taking into account the longer term).
I give you :- Joe Shooter, Ted Stocker, Nick Hawkins, Norman Smurfwait (or even Lee Thorn and others).
Most have contributed something (debatable) but many/all have had a negative effect on in the sort/medium term.
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Smurf had a CCFC connection
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Prior to their years of exile at Northampton, I seem to recall.
Rumoured that his interest in acquiring the Boro' was not unconnected to a long term plan/pipe dream/fantasy of getting feet under the table again at The Ricoh, with one of his numerous Grand Plans.
Fingers crossed it's not...............
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Smurf also has an "interesting" wikipedia profile that indicates he has common ground with one of our more vigorous posters:
"He is reportedly a keen football stadium floodlight and ground grading enthusiast, and discusses these issues comprehensively on a non league football forum."
:)
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must be honest Smurf was the first name i associated with the story
but discounted it immediately as i had no idea he had any inner Cov City connections whatsoever
would it be good or bad news if he came on board ?
i honestly dont know.
the views of some are already obvious
what i do know is we're talking NBFC here not a Chelsea
therefore a degree of realism has to be accepted on our situation
even so im certain ( many ) will disagree with my thoughts
ps. we cant all be a whiter than white FGR.
pps the above does not mean i dont respect others views on this situation
Edited by Joe at 08:15:53 on 26th May 2022
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Other positive connections
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I think it's fairly well known that I am not one of those who has any kind of downer over Cov or anywhere else. Difficult to be that way when my family has roamed nomadically between there, Nuneaton and Beduff for what seems like the last 400 years.
I didn't care much for Smurf because of his previous reputation. But the Boro' have had plenty of positive links. Would it be wrong to mention Kirk Stephens for example, who played for both clubs, managed us and at least attempted some resurfacing work on that awful approach road?
Or the fact that Cully, Carl Baker, Gez, Jim Blyth and many more worked for both clubs?
Just saying-not trying to make any political points. FWIW I think a shared ownership might be a positive thing. I certainly can't see how 100% ownership has been an entirely positive experience. Although it did save the club. :)
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So where would shared ownership leave the Supporters Co-op?
A 40% stake would leave JG, as major share-holder, some room for manouevre but a 49% stake would take the Supporters Co-op out of the equation.
I am more inclined to believe a 40% stake.
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coop being involved should be irrespective of any share ownership.
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I am a life member of the "Supporters Co-op."
Until the rumours are confirmed or discredited I am not inclined to believe anything.
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ok as ever sauce fair and positive points made.
btw the post was not made at you it was meant as a general comment.
i have to make the point that i am not averse to the bloke
as to be so would be unfair as in listening to others opinions.
i do believe they wanted and got him out at vale
which does in all fairness not fill one with confidence
the BIG problem with the Boro's of this world
there are not many prospective owners riding about on white horses
anyway cheers interesting chat.
ps and not a single word about 1000 seater stands or floodlights
tch couldnt resist that one :-)
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Wiki, but.......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Smurthwaite
Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....
je pense, donc je suis
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That is brilliant
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Having just read through that Wikipedia profile, here are a few facts:-
Norman Smurthwaite bought Port Vale for £1.25 million.
He subsequently sold the Club to the Shanahans for £3.50 million (?).
While at Port Vale, he tried to also buy Torquay United, until the EFL told him he couldn't own two clubs at once.
Since leaving Port Vale, he has reportedly tried to buy Notts County & then Bury, both unsuccessfully, before showing an interest in buying Wigan Athletic but an an adverse reaction from the Wigan fans steered him away from that idea!
He clearly is still maybe looking to buy a football club, or that's what that Wiki profile highlights.
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I wouldnt trust Wikipedia for facts - click on his page again and read the intro... ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Smurthwaite
Also, if someone has a posted a link, its good netiquette to assume that other posters will have had a look through this and read the information which interests them. It doesnt need to be repeated.
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Re: Other positive connections
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Reading through all of that information is a slog but it does build an interesting picture.
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Bit harsh on yourself!
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Honestly can’t see him just buying 40 pc of a club, he would want it all or nothing
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Going by what he achieved when at the Boro we don’t need him.
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Kept the club going you mean
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He didn't.
He nearly killed it.
On purpose.
He lied.
Repeatedly.
And then forgot to sue me for saying so.
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Re: Other positive connections
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Remember the uncertainly the summer. The meeting at Liberal club when the future was uncertain. New club at Griff (or below) level was a possibility.
IMO what would (or would not) happen under Smurthwait is pure conjuncture BUT his reputation went before him. The problem was he could not be involved in two clubs.....stupid for him to try and be involved.
There was no power to the ground and he did bring in a manager (I think) and two decent loan signings from Port Vale. In fact, in many ways the squad looked okay and no where as bad as the season implied.
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The manager was a Thorne appointment wasn't he?
And Smurthwaite was not able to do anything that he said he did without breaking rules and laws.
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Did he or did he make the situation worse? Selling the ground worked well.
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He made it worse.
Much worse.
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Or Ian Neale who actually spit the ground from the club making such a sale possible.
Once Smuthwait could not be involved, what else could he do?
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Most of Boro’s long term problems stem from Neale. Classic case of why it is better to be a tortoise than a hare.
Smurf was a charlatan who would say whatever suited his own purposes at whatever time.
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Yes Gustavus, the decisions taken by Ian Neale have been instrumental in taking us to the position we now find ourselves in...
BUT
It is my view, that if we had properly assessed the budget available to build the Liberty Way football/rugby ground at 'Day One' & we had built a more modest Stadium, that would have still complied with the FA's Membership Rules for the National League & we had not built what we have now, perhaps Ian Neale could have been paid up in full & he would not have needed to take ownership of the football club?
We could have started with a different approach to the design & built a 500-seater Main Stand first & reduced the scale of the other structures to suit, with less covered terracing, less open terracing & more flat standing.
So, in my oponion, we have to look beyond Ian Neale for what has happened, to the people making the decisions at the time.
Ian Neale was only appointed as the Main Contractor to carry out the works.
Furthermore, if we had only initially built a Stadium suitable for Membership of the National League North, with the potential for expansion, the ground capacity would only have needed to be 3000.
Edited by VoR at 10:08:43 on 27th May 2022
Edited by VoR at 10:16:13 on 27th May 2022
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I think that’s a bit like blaming the Weimar Republic for creating Hitler!
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He knew he couldn't be involved in the FC before he bought it and claimed he owned it.
He knew.
He could have carried on owning the ground he swapped a few houses and a car for.
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He has also put £1 million & then a further £500k into the Club out of his own pocket to cover playing budget shortfalls & claims Port Vale fans' protests cost the Club a £500k Stadium sponsorship deal.
He has appointed some good Managers in his time at Port Vale, including the current Wales boss Rob Page.
I agree with you MP23, he would probably want to buy the Club in its entirety?
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Re: Other positive connections
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The man is a menace and should never be allowed to have anything to do with a football club again.
Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....
je pense, donc je suis
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controversy does appear to be tied to his tail
going on that at least we'd never be out the news ;-)
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Much as I understood his background.
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He stated when he sold LW that he was selling because he had assumed that when JG took control of the Boro he would then sell the club to him, when JG didn’t do so he said he was selling the ground as no point in having it without the club, seems unlikely that if JG didn’t sell to him then that he would sell him a share of the club now.
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I believe he now living in Skegness
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Tell more! Is he a neighbour of mine?
Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....
je pense, donc je suis
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His company Falcon Alliance own/operate out of a cheap guset house on Glentworth Crescent in Skeggie, very odd.
worst forum poster ever
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As you say, very odd.
Nothing wrong with Skegvegas if you ignore the state of the roads, but not known as a destination for high flyers.
Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....
je pense, donc je suis
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Seems skegvegas is the retirement destination for ex boro high flyers 😉
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Seems skegvegas is the retirement destination for ex boro high flyers low lives😉
FTFU!
Time flies like an arrow, but fruit flies like a banana .....
je pense, donc je suis
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Where we have a friendly coming up!
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I thought history doesn't count?
We are living now...it's 2022! lol
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You learn from history and (or supposed to).
Boro having played Brentford and Watford and QPR years ago means nothing in 2022.
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you have put it across far better than i have.
some will of course say straw clutching
but all will be revealed one way or the other im sure.
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engaging and harnessing it is the obvious problem...
Loved this bit summed up in one sentence the biggest task any football club faces . Getting the word out to the masses and achieving the elusive feel good factor is as important ( almost ) as results in attracting in the fans .
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i have heard nothing on this only what has been posted on here
i tried to be positive but as ever cautious without any facts to go on
however im certain the usual suspects will be out in force once again
you know what .... if certain posters post ONE positive thought about this club
it will be their first and im going back to 2007.
and im not kidding either.
UTB
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Just wait and see!
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cheers for that bud.
sounds like bad news on the horizon :-)
................................. again
oh the joys of following a non league club.
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Re: 40% stake in the club sold!!!!!!
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It could be good news?
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Hi, have you met The Boro before?
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Let's face it if it was good news that would be bad news to some . We could always at least wait and see what happens before we prejudge .
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