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Council statement
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https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/council-statement-gala-fields-rumour-28502820
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Doesnt say phoenix club cant go there, just no discussions havent taken place
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"no formal approaches".
That doesn't rule out "informal approaches".
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i think someone from the co-op needs to have a meeting with the council before monday and see where potential a ground could go.
Also was it possible for the council to do a compulsory purchase of liberty way like the government did with houses for the hs2 line
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I’m not sure of situation regarding Hs2 but I do know a local authority cannot purchase a non listed building without agreement with the owner.
A local authority can compulsory purchase a listed building under sections 47 and 48 of the Listed Buildings Act. It seldom happens due to lack of funds.
People keep moaning about the Kingsholme pub but it cannot be cumpulsory purchased as it is not statutory protected by Listing.
That’s the law.
As for Liberty way - time to let it go.
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Councils don’t have any money.
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They have budgets for various things.
Sadly money for important things are constantly cut.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Except in their S106 pot!
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Are the council going to spend these funds on a footbal club patronised by around 500 people?
And don’t section 106 monies have to be spent related to the development they come from?
I’ll have a look at the TCPA
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No.
They are a mixture of a whole list of headings, that can be spent on the particular Development & on work in the locality of the Development & also elsewhere within the Borough of Nuneaton & Bedworth.
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Would love someone to confirm this exists, someone from the council.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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So many Borough fans said that the ground was in the wrong place at Liberty Way.
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Yep and there is now planning permission to demolish Kingsholme.
At one stage police said there were community safety powers - as a fire risk hazard - to seize the building.
As for Liberty Way there were no calls to compulsorily purchase it when Nuns lost their ground so I can t see why it would be seen as any different now.
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Think the council have powers under the Building Act 1984 S77-79 to issue a demolition order allowing the building to be made safe if it becomes unsafe and can recover costs.
Also section 216 notice TCPA could be used which you’ll know Gus.
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I doubt a compulary purchase would be possible.
PERHAPS the mystery party have met with the council.
However, any meeting would be at the councils convenience and I dont think a football club would be high up their agenda.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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They are public servants VS.
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My local pub closed down - should the council step in?
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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😂😂😂😂😂
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^^^^ important read ^^^^^
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Interesting
Does not say much, but needed to be said
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 14:59:07 on 24th January 2024
Edited by VS Boro at 15:00:18 on 24th January 2024
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Reads like a no to me
Shame people on facebook putting real effort into finding somewhere when in all honestly they will have zero input into the decision
*** don’t think it a good place for a ground personally
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Edited by Spurs and Verde at 15:13:59 on 24th January 2024
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An interesting comment about LW being an ACV.
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Old news
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That's not the inference I was making.
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Well why is it interesting the council said that
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When the council said it about 3 weeks ago
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It's interesting that they should repeat it now...
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Better than "I refer the learned gentleman to my previous answer" or "our aim is to halve inflation, reduce debt....."
They playing a straight bat.
the ACV is to give time for other bids if the designated use is to be changed. If the land is worth £400,000 then £400,000 would have to be found within 6 months (My understanding). If not found then "carry on" if found then either "its yours" or "okay, we will leave it as is"
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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AT do not have to accept any offer, that is their privilege.
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Hence "okay, we will leave it as is"
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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And the 6 month first opportunity to bid was ignored the last three times LW changed hands.
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I believe it is a red herring.
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Supporters Co-op white noise...nothing more!
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I think it was got round by selling the company instead of the ground.
Although clearly Boro Stadiums no longer exists.
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The ground did not change from designated purpose.
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Note sure it had to - in fact I'm certain it doesn!
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Ok if you say so think your reading way to much into it
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Its just regurgitating comments made a month or so ago.
The ACV is a good thing to have, but in reality..........
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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to me he seems to prefer a community owned club than a private one
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It’s a terrible place for a ground and would face massive opposition from nearby residents.
The NPPF requires justification for the removal of the current community pitches and will need their replacement.
Access is poor and most supporters would pour out onto the bust Avenue rd.
The current traffic lights already jam Avenue rd up with tail jacks back to Coton Arches at times.
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Problem - Where would be suitable?
Anyway - I just feel some ardent boro' supporters are now muscling in on things because they care about a (multi) failed football club.
In reality any development of any area has to consider local residents, the wider population requirement, finances, obligations, environmental issues and not the 2000 (sic) supporters who used to go to Liberty Way to watch a team that didn't pay its bills and went bust. The latter may be open to interpretation but perception (by casual on lookers) is important.
The only "hope" I see with any development such as Avenue Road, is the CIC could utilise facilities for the teams it currently run. That would help the people of Nuneaton.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Opposite the crem in between the two industrial areas
Great place for a ground personally plenty of room
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It also has to consider Economic Development.
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What part reads like a no?
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All of it not saying yes and side stepping the question
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They cannot comment formally until they have had a formal approach.
They are bound by Standing Orders as Local Authority employees.
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Great
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yep hopefully puts a stop to the nonsense speculation now!
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Did anyone official ever say this was a possibility or did fans just decide this was a thing then run with it ?
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LukeS has been providing a lot of 'informed' speculation.
I believe he is a Co-op Board Member (?)
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And it is speculation.
If “informed” (via coop discussions) then that surely must come from coop. There was a reason the Bermuda meeting had not been announced till 5pm yesterday.
I have seen (particularly on Facebook) other “informed speculation”, which was laughable at the time and proved to be just that.
Whilst I have contact with many (including some on the coop board) all I know is that a meeting is taking place on Monday. I read this as an opportunity for supporters to be informed and to gauge ideas and support.
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So nothing official
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All that’s know officially is the coop meeting on Monday. I have no doubt they are busy as hell and want to try and do things properly, at the right time with as much facts as possible.
There was a post (only on here) about a meeting on Wednesday at the liberal club - but that’s all that’s know.
This Avenue Road thing started with an idea and escalated.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Wasn't it a "regular" poster who said, out of nowhere, that it could be a good site? He then picked it up and ran with it, and people started to talk as though it was a done deal.
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I think it’s one person who appears to have got the wrong end of the stick about a range of issues.
Then another person got over excited because they want to be involved.
All the speculation is really unhelpful and counter productive IMO.
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"All the speculation is really unhelpful and counter productive IMO." - Agree, although that is the nature of message boards/forums
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It's the nature of one poster in particular.
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Well I hope it won’t be repeated on Monday.
If there is anything concrete to speak about in the future then the actual relevant people can be invited to speak then.
Until then surely the priority is discussing what Boro fans want!
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So you don’t think I should mention the rumour my mates mother heard about an African prince buying the whole of liberty way land and donate it to DA Capital on the condition JG is made manager and president for life?
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Incidentally there is an African prince buried in Nuneaton St Nicholas Churchyard. Fact 😊
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"Until then surely the priority is discussing what Boro fans want!"
Absolutely, and that's why the meeting has been set up :)
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Such meetings have been chaired well before.
If wish lists about grounds and fairy stories about 106 pots get mentioned I hope they will be told to stick to the agenda to be discussed!
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Yes, it will be very interesting to hear what the Co-op Board have to say in support of the undoubted hard work being put in by one of their Board members?
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What he has done is proved that a 5000-capacity Stadium could be built at the Gala Field, because there is the land area available for such a project.
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Or misheard or misunderstood something they were told about and then tried to portray themselves as being in the know.
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We will find out shortly.
Anyone can visit NBBC's website & check the Planning Application once it has been submitted.
Checking on a regular basis will show what modifications have been made, arising out the Planning consultation process, as the information is updated & be able to read specialist reports submitted as supplementary information.
CoventryLive will publish an article informing of when the Planning Application was submitted, giving an application number, which is needed to access the project on the NBBC website.
There will be at least one public consultation on a project of this nature.
Edited by VoR at 19:39:20 on 24th January 2024
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VoR, when was this application submitted?
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Absolutely certain you won’t!
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By that, I mean if there is any substance to the "informed speculation"?
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You won’t and it’s uninformed!
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Mark is very good; very professional; very approachable and I have no doubt he is very well appreciated.
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Yes - agenda and criteria is VERY important
Biggest is “THIS MEETING IS ABOUT THE FUTURE and not what has led to this meeting”
However - what if certain people (as is their right) attend? Difficult one.
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