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Huge choice to be made / make or break time
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Question I have asked to be answered by Gary Holliday.
As he wasn't in a position to answer Ben Bruce's legacy question last night I thought it would be pointless me asking it there & then. Also i would like him to have the time to make a considered response rather than be put on the spot.
My question: "Gary stated they are not in it to make a profit & are in it for the love of the game & in the best interests of the town of Nuneaton. So when they get a ground in Nuneaton are they willing to hand ownership of it to the fans (Co-op perhaps) so if they walk away the ground belongs to the town/ fans."
** JUST TO CLARIFY ** I don't mean give it away, but recoup what it cost through the numerous revenue streams mentioned last night , national sponsorships & sporting events etc.
It was repeatedly said they are not in it for a profit & what a legacy that would be.
OTHERWISE IN MY OPINION WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE SCENARIO OF NOT OWNING OUR OWN GROUND. & IN A FEW YEARS TIME THERE WILL BE ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE TO BUILD A NEW ONE IN NUNEATON.
WE HAVE ONE SHOT AT THIS TO ENSURE THE CLUB CONTINUES FOR OUR KIDS & GRANDKIDS.
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR ERROR IN THE DECISION WE CURRENTLY FACE.
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Can somebody explain why they are doing this out of the goodness of their heart…..when they aren’t even from here?
Let’s be honest, they will want a return. They won’t gift anything.
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Why will they? Many clubs are owned by people not from that area, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Ebbsfleet to name a few, makes me laugh on here some say they dont want anyone connected to the old regime having any involvement in a new club and others complaining they are from Birmingham and not from Nuneaton, only Boro supporters could be this ridiculous
Edited by stone ragma at 23:47:31 on 1st February 2024
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With respect, where they are from has nothing to do with the original post.
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Agree with most of what you say here, except for the last seven words of your post. on which we will just have to agree to differ.
I think most Boro fans, although quite tolerant in some ways , are on the ropes a bit at the moment, during what has been a bitter and upsetting period. The words "Boro' fans" and " resilience" tend to go together but many are even more upset than usual at present. Although frustrating, this is understandable.
A few individuals continue to exploit this disunity and unhappiness. . A bit like funeral guest gobbling all the sandwiches at The Wake.
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Is it ridiculous to not want anyone involved in the sinking of The Boro to be involved in a phoenix club?
I do not think so, I think it is a perfectly reasonable view, and one I am persuaded by.
Is it ridiculous to want local people owning and running the club?
I do not think so.
If it was fan run, I would be 100% on board with that too.
As it is not fan run, I do not care where the owners come from, but I understand why people may not want that.
And I am sure there were fans of lots of clubs who want one or both of those things when things go tits up. I do not see it as a Boro only thing.
Could you please be so kind as to explain your reasoning behind your proclamations so I can attempt to understand them better. Cheers.
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There were local people running the club, look how thats ended, the two gentlemen from Birmingham have no connection to the previous regime, there are double standards from sime people is my point
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All that really matters with any owners is what their motivations are and can they do the job to at least an adequate standard . Where they come from don't really matter imo .
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Oh ok, who is saying both of the things you pointed out?
I have seen some people saying they do not want the old guard involved, and other different people saying they want locals.
Different people wanting different things is not double standards.
You also have not explained why you think either of those things are ridiculous.
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They say that they want to own a football club . There certainly wouldn't be the first people to want to do that and buy or set up a random club . They say they looked at a number of clubs and felt we had the most potential . Answer me this it's going to cost them a fair wedge of their own money setting this up . We have absolutely zero assets for them to strip . There's few logical answers other than they want to own a football club i can think of .
More than happy to be corrected
Edited by almost average 2 at 19:35:51 on 1st February 2024
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I dont think it will cost a wedge to set up,
Don’t think it will cost anything until next season.
They’ve just got a club for free (sorry VS)
My guess is they have their eye on the Academy. That’s how they will try to make money a la Thorn.
Not surprised Boro supporters lapped it up last night. That’s happened before at similar presentations.
But now there’s a chance to reflect and not commit. And if others want to step forward with an alternative they need to do so.
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How many were there last night?
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I would guess about 225
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Not sure boro fans have lapped it up to me most are keeping an open mind a sort of wait and see , but this involves not just negatively dismissing everything as some fans seem determined to do .
Academy theory is certainly a possibility .
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Somebody said 80 per cent last night in favour?
There’s a history of Boro fans being bowled over with false promises. It’s happened all my life.
If they are waiting and seeing this time then good on them.
At the moment there is no concrete evidence anywhere these people are any different to DA Capital.
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I did.
It's the gut feeling I got. Particularly with one round of applause (cant remember why), but I most certainly did not clap
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Me neither
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To be honest when someone has faced the supporters taken questions and tried to give answers, surely wether you were for or against their ideas they at least deserved polite applause.
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I agree & unusual for me to react in that way.
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Well said .
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They will need a Succession Plan.
Edit:
"They are not in it to make a profit".
Equally they are not in it to make a loss.
Edited by VoR at 19:24:02 on 1st February 2024
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Could simply be a buy to sell. Create a club basically out of peanuts. Have a four to five year project to get the club in a stable attractive position with potential. Start Boro off in the midland division one hopefully by the fifth year the club would at least be back in the southern league or even national league north. Playing in their own stadium within the town which of course will be community owned. Eventually this will drum interest and be able to sell the club for handsome profit. Its basically like a builder buying some land in the country side and building a number of houses on it sell them off for a huge profit.
Of course the project can only be a success if the club have a new stadium in the works and will be built within the next five years. No one will want buy a club at any level if there groundsharing and out of town.
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Point being in the original post Gary Holliday repeatedly said in Wednesdays meeting everyone involved is not in it to make a profit.
If true - fantastic, let the legacy stated in original post become a reality.
If untrue - run for the hills !!!!!!!
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No one makes money out of a football club; certainly not at lower levels.
How often do clubs rise, then fall because they run into debt or cant afford it. Just look at Salford (Money no object) and FGR (how much did that cost).
Look how much it cost Boro Leisure to not get promoted and drum up about £400,000 debt in 5 years AND lose the ground.
This was the exact same logic used on Facebook to explain/promise DA Capital involvement.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 22:46:17 on 1st February 2024
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JG was passionate about the club to run the whole show by himself and look how that turned out. Supposedly these new owners are just as passionate. Surely that is enough reason to show caution?
They need to be providing answers, other than they've got somebody to manage the team, a colourful new playing kit, and intend to groundshare miles away from the town.
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What's the questions that need answering ?
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1, what is plan B if groundshare at HLR isn't signed
2, how long will they alcarry on as a "Nuneaton team" if suitable ground inside the town isn't found?
3, what gives them the right to use the Boro badge?
Those would be mine.
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Gotcha 👍
None of those things currently interest me so I'll leave that to others to discuss.
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What does currently interest you, Boro-wise?
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What league we'll be in when we start playing.
Although I understand that's for the FA/League to decide and they do that when this seasons finished.
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Interesting that you have gone for "we" there.
Have you accepted this new co will be your continuity of The Boro?
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"We" .... Old habits and all that
I see it as a new team setting up with the 'Nuneaton' name and by the looks of it some of the staff that used to be at a Club I once followed a lot.
At present I have a little bit of interest.... over the coming weeks that interest may fade or indeed, it may gain momentum.
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It's the only choice that "we" have at the moment, unless there are other options in the pipeline, at which point the "we" will start to fragment & become "us" & "them" or even "us" & "them" & "them"...
Remember, Biggleswade, with a population of circa 15,000 (?) currently have 3 Senior clubs.
Edited by VoR at 10:10:01 on 2nd February 2024
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