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The demise of Nuneaton Borough FC
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If I have missed it then apologies in advance,but has anyone seen or heard a full account from any NBFC representatives about what precisely,when,why and where events that happened to lead to the FCâs demise ?
Nuneaton Borough FC is deadâKilled by incompetence.
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I don't think there will be an independent inquiry into what went on Vernon... Therefore I can't see any of us getting a 'full account' of what happened.
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I am not expecting an independent enquiry Mark,just an explanation of events but it would appear that us minions do not warrant this. I see previous employees moving on and elsewhere,players,coach and manager etc but from them not a word of contrition or explanation. We fans lose our club though.
Nuneaton Borough FC is deadâKilled by incompetence.
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JG isnt going to explain, it wasnt his faultđ¤
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it happened its over its gone... let it go Vernon
ref the future ... ever heard of New Brighton fc ? NO !!
look it up and digest it
might give you an insight as to the probable future
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Morning Joe. I can let it go Joe but it is up to those concerned to put it to bed in my opinion. When the truth is out then we can all say that it is over.
I think it was Jebbs,on here,that said that the closure of the FC was not down to the rent issue but other reasons. Since then I have been waiting for the other reasons.
Nuneaton Borough FC is deadâKilled by incompetence.
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Youâll have to go back a lot off years .
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I think technically he is right.
Probably the âofficialâ reason was that income was not sufficient to see the season out (due to not playing at liberty way).
I was told that the chances to see the season out (before lockout) was slim and JG informed of that.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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If they knew so early in the season we we're going to struggle to finish the season ( you've said September from memory ) why on earth were Jimmy & AD allowed to put themselves on two years contracts only a couple of months before . The situation couldn't have deteriorated that much in two months . So many things about this whole situation that are just bizarre .
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I suspect there had been some falling out amongst sponsors. One of whom decided they were not going to pay the rent. What happened to Jason Dean and what were his actual responsibilities? Equally the one thing Jimmy Ginnelly should have been in control of was the payment of rent.
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Let's not discuss Jason Dean.....It will create a Hulla Ava lot of time going through his 'jobs'.
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Why are people peddling this line that a sponsor failed to pay the rent?
The owners failed to pay the rent.
And, if some people are to be beleived, failed to pay the rent for a year.
As for how we're JG and AD allowed to be put on a two year deal, who was going to stop them? JG?
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Seem to remeber at the start of this season JG saying SE had told him to cut the budget from last season so presumably SE had some say in JG/AD being awarded two year contracts
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After all that has gone, you still believe ANYTHING that JG said/says? Really?
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youâre shit.
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Do you have trouble reading ?
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You end up in the post Lurker was replying to assuming that there was truth to what JG said, so the question is perfectly valid.
Do you have trouble with comprehension?
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Canât find the post. But remember seeing it.
Something like âwas the sponsors that decided what was to be paid etcâ
Well, yes. From the infamous sponsors meeting in September. A group of sponsors âtook controlâ to allow Jimmy to concentrate on the football, cos at that point They was doing pretty shit.
(This doesnât obviously include the pre-historic non payments)
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Are these the same sponsors that told JG to liquidate the club?
He ignored them then.
Seems they were an advisory board.
And the advice was not always listened to.
Were they the ones who suggested JG was given a lucrative contract as manager? Or did they not really have the power to oppose it?
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Edited by The_Hullablue at 16:09:44 on 3rd March 2024
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The owner knew better
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Allow Jimmy to concentrate on football!, they were really fools then.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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Do you really think anyone had any power to make JG do anything?
There is a school of thought that says the owner/manager had control of all decisions, but blamed others for decisions he thought fans wouldn't like.
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Edited by The_Hullablue at 10:28:13 on 2nd March 2024
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In answer to your question i dont believe he made every decision and no one else had a say particulary as other people were also putting their money in.
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Then I have some magic beans to sell you.
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And I have this amazing oil!
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youâre shit.
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No. But sponsors did have the power to withdraw sponsorship and that does not have to be Stuart Elliott or Ian Cooke.
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Surely any sponsorship would be for a season and paid in full before the season.
JG set the budget, signed the players agreed the wage.
No sponsor, large or small, individually or collectively, are to blame for what happened.
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Or it could be based upon a monthly payment.
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A monthly payment perhaps, but a season-long agreement.
A sponsor wouldn't be able to not pay as agreed.
And if they decide to not enter a new agreement, they are not withdrawing.
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I wonder whether the sponsors felt they got value for money ?
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Technically they must have*
Sponsors is when (usually money**) is passed over in return for advertisement.
The bigger the presence the higher the cost.
* ignoring only 30% of return on sponsorship.
** some is âbenefit in kindâ.
The sponsorship money is paid; advertisement is returned and the buisiness spends the income as feels fit.
For a sponsor to demand where the money is spent is foolish IMO.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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To assume they are going to get the money is also irresponsible.
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Sorry, who is assuming in this scenario?
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Edited by The_Hullablue at 12:01:48 on 2nd March 2024
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That's a really good point and is one that needs to be addressed in the new club.
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Of course itâs the ownerâs fault for not ensuring the rent was paid. Itâs also the ownerâs fault for having too much reliance on sponsorship and too much reliance on over paid players.
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No blame to be put in sponsors at all.
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Someone on here mentioned a group of people being named in the match day programme each home game (no idea if this was true)
It was said they were an "advisory board" or something's like that.
It's been said these people discussed budgets etc (amongst other things) with the manager and set things accordingly and when it needed cutting the manager was told (SE telling JG for example).
No idea if anyone classes these people as "sponsors"
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"It's been said".
C'mon Jebbs, do you really think JG would do anything he was told to do re Boro if he didn't agree?
No.
JG had the final say on everything, he was after all, the owner.
An advisory board has no power, none at all. It even says it in the name. Advisory.
The praise when things go well goes to JG, the buck, when it stops, stops with him too.
There has been a bid to muddy SE's reputation of late.
The compulsive liar who tried to start a new club in Leicestershire and claim it was a continuation of Boro was one of the people behind it.
He tried to blame SE for stopping funding for the kids teams, when all he did was buy a sponsorship package advertised by Boro.
There are other people with a vested interest in blaming anyone but JG, but JG was the owner the main shareholder, he did everything. He told us that often enough.
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I think those people had far more say in the decision making at the Club than people are willing to accept.
I get it though. I understand the need to make out these fellas are blameless... looks like a few of them may be involved in the start up of the new Club so I won't bother discussing things further as I don't want to be accused of muddying anyone's reputation.
I'll do the decent thing and ignore this thread and keep out of the conversation.
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Do you think those people had the power to sack the manager?
Do you think they had access to club bank accounts to make payments for the club?
Who took the decisions on what bills to pay and which ones not to pay?
If the club didn't pay rent for 12 months, who knew about that and who decided to not pay?
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If only someone would tell us the answers. At least it gives us something to talk about. Thereâs not much to discuss on the forum without a football club.
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But then there would be many different accounts.
I have been told many things from many reputable sources.
The one I can categorically say was "economic with the truth" was the claim was "we volunteered to pay AT the arrears by end-of-2023". IT was the truth, but not the whole truth ;)
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Almost every claim made about the ground hasnât been true.
Itâs as if people think there are no consequences to making stuff up.
The latest porkies are claims of so called offers for the ground from Kash etc.
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Lots of people have claimed that AT are not willing to sell or rent to anyone who wants to play football on the site.
Is that true?
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I donât think they want to sell.
I donât think anybody connected to the former club is in any position to extrapolate that the ground would not be rented for football. I think theyâd be better placed to reflect on what happened and why it happened and their own responsibility. And also reflect on public comments they have made since and how helpful that might be to getting football back to LW!
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That almost reads like AT are sulking because some people said things about them that are not true and as a result they are not letting anyone play with their ball.
Any chance that the co-op linked club will be able to rent the ground, in your opinion l?
Edited to change "selling" to "sulking".
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They arenât selling?
I think there is an opportunity to rebuild trust starting with the memorial garden and who knows what might happen if a relationship can be established.
I believe tentative steps have started to be made.
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Sorry, sulking. Not selling.
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Not sulking but hard nosed businessmen without sentimentality who lost patience and money to an unreliable tenant.
The strange thing is most of the insults have come from people with their own businesses. Itâs hard to believe they routinely insult suppliers because they havenât got what they wanted. But then itâs hard to believe they donât pay the commercial rent on time on their own premises.
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If they rented the ground to whatever the co-op club is going to be, they wouldn't be losing money, would they?
That is where I am saying it looks like they are sulking.
Unless of course they have talked to the co-op et al and the new club couldn't afford the same rent as Boro had..
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I think they effectively took a chill pill and mothballed the ground.
Losing a sitting tenant is obviously to their advantage.
So any rent in future is unlikely to relate to a lease as before
But who know what could happen?
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I donât think we should ever go back to Liberty Way.
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Yes good thinking much better to have a few years playing in Bedworth.
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Council owned ground has to be better than a landlord that does not want us.
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Maybe tryeid g to get a landlord to want us would be better than playing out of town.
There I no reason at all that new bridges cannot be built.
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I disagree.
There were things wrong with that ground, but if we can get them right, it iis better than playing in Bedrock.
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For pityâs sake end this thread nowâŚGinnelly is to blame, The owner, THE manager, The culprit.
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For pityâs sake end this thread nowâŚGinnelly is to blame, The owner, THE manager, The culprit.
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What we will never get is clarity. Who sponsored the Boro 2022-23 and who sponsored them 2023-24.
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And if you read the countless JG Facebook posts the theme is how the sponsors help HIM and HIS club/team (and not the club/buisness)
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 12:30:04 on 2nd March 2024
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I think I could make a pretty good guess at what happened and who was responsible at what time.
But not sure what purpose it serves.
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Another thing thats bizarre is that I have been told by someone who should know; AD & JG didn't have 2 year contracts........it was longer (for one at least).
Of course the devil may be in the detail (eg rolling contract). How true this is I have no idea.
(just checked the text) It was put in place during the summer as "safety" if the club was sold.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Bizarre not the adjective I would use. Shady perhaps?
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It was the owner who killed the club simple as that
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Nobody has taken responsibility at any point. Just seems to be complete denial and blame shifting.
I doubt the truth will come out until the appointed Liquidator write their report. I gather winding up has moved closer now.
An independent figure/advisor has suggested the debts might be closer to 1 million.
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no problem
quote " killed by incompetence "
there is nothing to add. spot on.
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We all know the answer Joe . This club has for some reason attracted a string of owners who have run it badly . Jimmy was just the latest in a long line .
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yup... again a spot on post
yep Jimmy cocked it up he has to stand up and take the blame the head guy always does.
but again your spot on just look at the history of the club
it tells you everything you need to know
even the ground move itself was a diabolical disaster with personal motives on the agenda
cant put into print wot i really think on that one
as i said on here the other day/week
the culprits know who they are AND you know what they effin sicken me..... the WHOLE ROTTON BARREL
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