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In the last 24 hours, we have had confirmation from Birmingham County FA that they have not approved the name Nuneaton FC, which was voted for by 55% of fans who took part in the online poll. They have indicated that the other option of Nuneaton Town FC is acceptable, and this has now gone to the relevant FA committee for final approval. Based on our research we did not anticipate having a problem with the name Nuneaton FC but respect the decision of the game's governing body.
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Nuneatonbrough F.C.
Works for Middlesboro'......
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Any explanation for rejecting Nuneaton FC? Seems a bit arbitrary.
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I would guess that the decision is based on the intention of the new custodians to link with the past entities.
Nuneaton Borough FC is dead—Killed by incompetence.
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None as of yet, as far as I am aware.
Agree about the arbitrariness of it.
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AFC Nuneaton may had done the trick. Did anyone submit it perchance ?
We were warned,but did it anyway.
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No
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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Strange - Nuneaton FC would distance itself from previous cock ups more than AFC Nuneaton or Nuneaton Town.
Personally I would like to have something unique - Perhaps Nuneaton 2024.
Makes little difference to me. People will still refer to it as "the Boro".
Same with badge - Personally something modern with no link to past club.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Don't worry...... in a few years it will become Nuneaton and Bedworth Town FC
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More chance of finding rocking horse - - - -.
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I know I say it (half)in jest but if in two or three years time we can't find a ground to play on within the Boro of Nuneaton then a merger must be on the cards
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We’ve been told we are at Bedworth for two seasons , with an option of another season ,what do you think that means.? bearing in mind it takes a long time to get everything in motion and in place to get a new stadium built.
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I think it's gonna take a lot longer than 3 years with a pot of money we ain't got to get a new ground within the Boro of Nuneaton .....council willing aswell .....
Half of me just thinks that after playing at Beduff for three seasons then with no new ground insight the sensible thing would be a merger ......
Tell me I was wrong in 3 or so years time.
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I will do.
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I can categorically say I wouldn't be working on this project if I thought that would be the outcome!
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I should hope not, who the hell would be going to Bedworth to watch B&N United
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Wouldn't say it would or even could be the outcome but it's a possibility when in three years time we're in no position to have a ground of our own ......
It's taken the council about 5 years to open a bridge....
How's many years is it going to take the council to give us some land to build a stadium on with all the infrastructure that would have to come with it ??????
Plus where is all the money coming from to make this happen????
Edit..... We either find a very rich benifactur ( which no one wants ) or merg ....
Edited by Lord of the Manor at 12:47:39 on 8th March 2024
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What would Bedworth gain from a merger with their tenant?
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Bigger home gates .... More money on merchandise.....behind the bar .....food....50/50... Etc etc
Basically financially better off, probably a better chance of promotion.
That goes for both teams...
This wouldn't go down well with both sets of fans but if run properly would benefit both clubs
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They would already have rent from us as tenants and all the bar take from our matches as well as theirs. I'm not sure that losing those additional matchdays with their revenue streams to merge with a club who may be below them in the pyramid would benefit them in any way at all.
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I would say the THEORY is such
Suppose both clubs bring in revenue of £100 to spend on players.
Merging the two would bring in £150 to spend on players.
More money on played should (but as we know it’s not guaranteed) bring in better results.
Very much simplified but that’s the theory.
Whilst having two grounds should bring in more money via sponsorship the maintenance is also higher.
I doubt anyone would favour a merger, but does it make sense having two competing clubs just 3.5 miles apart? But when has logic and football ever gone together?
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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we'd all like us back at LW.....
if not we'd all like the council to give us a prime site within the town ....
If not inside maybe outside of town ...
If not maybe a long term ground share....
If not ....what then 🤔
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LW will always be pursued but even now AT are refusing to entertain to idea of the ground leased or even sold.
If things change, then thats another matter, but my personal opinion is that Nuneaton Town must return to Nuneaton in a location with the urban area and not in an "out of town" location, as that goes against the principle of "competitive sustainability" that will be front and centre of the clubs ethos.
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So a "solution" l
like Leamington, which is between 4 and 5 miles from Leamington centre will be rejected?
like Kettering Town, which is between 3 and 4 mikes from Kettering will be rejected?
The Oval to Nuneaton is between 3 and 4 miles.
Liberty Way is between 1 and 2 miles.
Even where the women play is 2 miles away, and (happy to corrected) the acadamy is 8 miles away.
How far "out of town" will be acceptable?
I 100% accept EVERY SITUATION IS UNIQUE. I am struggling to think of any potential areas within Nuneaton., not withstanding the cost to buy the land and then build facilities. Perhaps cuckooing (not in the legal sense) may be an option.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Liberty Way is no longer an out of town location, not with all the thousands of house being built that side of Nuneaton.
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It doesn’t help that false claims continue to be posted on Boro Chat.
The arrears would not have been paid off imminently. 14k was owed,
The Club was formally notified on 5th September that it needed to pay the arrears in full by 15 September.
Relief from forfeiture could not have been obtained from the Court because there were multiple breaches of the lease which had occurred over a number of years.
If there ever will be a return to LW then trust will need to rebuilt through adult behaviour. Those making outlandish claims on Boro Chat aren’t helping that!
Edited by Gustavus at 09:37:52 on 10th March 2024
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I have been told that the landlord could not have taken the action that he took if the remaining length of the lease dipped below 3 years. Another ingredient into the soup.
Nuneaton Borough FC is dead—Killed by incompetence.
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I understand re entry could occur any time there was not full payment within 21 days so they were generous to let it go in for as long as they did!
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Hi
I have concerns how you know so much info plus more than what the football club received?? because I can assure you after the new board been informed about the arrears this was followed with a meeting AT representative and all that was said bring the rent up to date and all will be fine … no letters where sent at all and no mention of any repossession … so I would be really grateful for you to share this information so we can investigate as the club have a lot of interested sponsors
Thanks
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Can you help those of us that have personal items inside get them back?
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I have heard (and I believe it) that once the threat was made, the club offered to pay back the arrears by end-of 2025 (30 months). Only after lockout was 2023 proposed (or even immediately) AND I have no recollection of anyone at the club saying this (2025) as 2023 makes AT sound unreasonable.
I don't deny I have no idea of the motives for what AT have ultimately done; I does not make sense to me, particularly after the 2nd offer.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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That’s correct and was rejected and full payment required.
A further formal email of 20th September repeated this.
Boro were told landlord would take repossession.
As for the point you’ve added I think they lost any faith in the reliability of the tenant which is why any future talks should be done by fresh faces!
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Hi Gustavus, is there any indication as to who they would not be willing to talk to. Would they talk to the Supporters Co-operative committee for example. Is anybody connected with the previous regime able to talk with AT or not? Any clarification would help, thanks.
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I think based from Gustavus comments about “continual” comments. It seems that Ian Cook is probably chatting rubbish in Gustavus’ / NR’s eyes.
So your answer is in the above.
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With respect rather than us second guess I would rather Gustavus answer my question, thanks.
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Talks was held with fresh faces and this was rejected … we sponsor are very happy to have a discuss face to face about this situation ??? so please let me know when suits you so I can speak to the sponsors to attend also I would like to see any additional correspondence sent to boro leisure this will help to understand the whole situation
Thanks
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Was that via a Section 146 notice? Everyone I spoke to at the club has claimed one was not recieved (that doesn't include JG btw).
And if a Section 146 notice wasn't served, then the forfeiture reversal would be a formality.
If one was served, and wasn't acted on, then the Boro Leisure deserved what it got.
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"Everyone I spoke to at the club". These the same people who constantly claim 5000+ were at the play off final?
Have you spoke to AT?
There are 2 sides to every story. Sadly one is not giving there's.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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S146 wasn’t needed because of the terms of the lease.
The Barack room lawyer on Boro Chat doesn’t understand this
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Formal notice was sent by email to SE.
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Why SE?
Was there any proof the email was received?
There are lots of rumours that this was not just about rent.
Until AT or Boro Leisure actually say anything publicly about the reasons, we will be left with people who have been briefed by one interested party or another spilling what and when suits their agenda.
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Because he was chairman
The previous two emails went to the lady doing the accounts
And although it could have been for sub letting or the condition of the buildings it was specifically about the rent!
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Did the chairman reply? If so, what did the chairman say?
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The email was ignored.
He was also at a meeting where he was told it needed to be paid.
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Was the owner aware of the seriousness of the situation, to your knowledge?
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Yes
And you could say he was responsible for the arrears in first place as they went back at least four years.
Another poster has said on here they mistook kindness for weakness!
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Was the chairman, vice chairman and those other decision makers aware of the seriousness of the situation, to your knowledge?
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Were those people decision makers?
Did they, for example, have the power to sack the manager?
Were they advising and the owner deciding, or would the owner have to suck it up of the chairman and vice chairman made a decision he didn't agree with?
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There were chances to remove the manager , at least 2 times there were votes of confidence.
Manager/owner would have walked if he didn't have the backing... but those who funded the Club are the same people who helped with decisions and chose to carry on regardless.
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Would he have walked as owner if he was sacked as manager?
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Good question.. if the people who paid his wages had chose to stop doing so we might have had the answer .
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From what JG said repeatedly, he brought the sponsors in, they were his friends and contacts.
And he was the owner.
He made the decisions, he signed the cheques.
Seems a very odd way of running a company to be honest.
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JG said himself that at any other club (where the manager was not the owner) he would have been sacked.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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I think he was right
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I don’t know if they were decision makers but yes they were aware.
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Are Cook and Eliot involved in Nuneaton Town v3 please.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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SE is I think
Also - I think it’s V5
* the original
* one after WW2
* StadiaSafe
* Boro Leisure
* 2024
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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When did Dean step down as chair?
When did SE become chair?
Not saying either a fault as that is clearly owner / directors, but the non payment of rent was over years and not months.
Seems to me SE picked up a poisoned chalice and could only advise.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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I think that’s fair comment
It’s the lies after lockout which is galling though and they are still carrying on on Boro Chat.
It’s v annoying that nobody has taken responsibility at any stage since this sorry mess started.
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Absolute situation where the 'acting' chairman, Jason Dean failed in his duties. Due diligence then failed BL when the company demoted Jason Dean to bar person, they did not oversee his emails. This then averted any continuous process with AT.
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Oh I know that.
I was just curious to see how much you'd spill.
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Agreee with that. Will the truth ever come out ?
Nuneaton Borough FC is dead—Killed by incompetence.
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As for the money, grants.
As a not for profit commu ity thing, there are lots and lots of grants out there.
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Forums moved on from not being able to say anything that’s not pro JG, to not being able to think the co-op/fan run/collab thing will not necessarily be a success.
For what it’s worth, I agree with you LoTM. For all the good intentions of the steering committee etc, and I appreciate their efforts, without significant investment into the ground/council help/etc I too think this will be the beginning of the merger.
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I agree
Without money to build a ground (if land could be found) OR being tenants of a private enterprise then I can’t see a move back to Nuneaton ( I can think of one location but can’t see the owners be bitten twice).
Taking away understandable biases - merged team makes sense.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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It all depends on how you define it being a succees I guess.
Some want it to progress on and off the pitch (Champions League here they come) to others just wanting g it to get a ground in Nuneaton.
There is lots of criticism already, especially on Boro Chat, bit I feel most cones from a place where they do not know pr understand how it will work and people being u happy that it will not work as they want it to.
I hope the co-op (as they are the only element talking to fans right now) are able to head off lots of this at the next meeting.
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They need to tell fans how it's going to work and who's involved .
Fans will give the club a lot of lea way if they feel there being told the truth . I know something but your not important enough to know ain't going to work .
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Be intresting to see how open those in charge of the club will be
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Thinking in terms of openness, how far would measures such as the sharing of the club finances on a monthly basis help?
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It would help tremendously but would probably be very scary
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It's a brave new world 😊
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I hope this happens at the next meeting.
At the minute, to me, it is coming across as "the volunteers are doing g lots of work and do not want to jeopardise anything by announcing it u til it is conformed", but I can see why others will see it other ways.
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+1 .....
I see it the same but some things must remain private and kept behind closed doors.
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Totally agree and I hope that over time people will come to appreciate how things have and are going to work. The meeting on Wednesday will explain some of this stuff and there will be info shared for those who cannot attend too.
" I know something but your not important enough to know ain't going to work"
Totally agree, we've had quite enough of that.
What I would say though is, there has to be a degree of confidentiality especially until things have been confirmed otherwise people end up announcing things that haven't happened and then don't end up happening, which is also wrong. I suppose I mean that there is a difference between confidentiality and secrecy.
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Can fully understand that .
One of my biggest problems with how the club was run under Jimmy was we were only told what he felt we needed to know yet information was leaked out to his friends who then leacked it out further , so everything was rumour and hearsay . To be honest I feel the co-op have also been guilty of this in the past with people involved for their own ego reasons .
Honesty & transparency obviously within reason has got to be the way forward .
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His version of events were leaked to his mates.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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That will be the definitive end of the Boro
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The rights to use Nuneaton FC are owned by somebody else perhaps
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Definitively NOT the end of The Boro
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They will always be The Boro' to me and The Politburo will not make me change my mind.
After much pressure (by me-I have the correspondence), they claimed that they had not enforced the previous migration from Boro to Town suggesting strongly that it was an in house decision. I did not believe them then. I do not believe their motives are honourable now. They are a horrible Dads Army organisation. I've had other dealings with them in the past,when representing players from other clubs. Stubborn, intransigent jobsworths.
Do your worse BCFA-I will continue to follow the Boro' I have dozens of Town and Boro shirts so no skin off my nose.
However : I have made my views on Real Donnithorne clear to all. It makes about as much sense as this .
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My theory is that ‘Nuneaton FC’ (which could be interpreted as meaning the principal football club in Nuneaton) is seen as being too pushy, given that an established club in the same town - Nuneaton Griff - would probably be in a higher league initially. As a comparison, Hereford FC was acceptable because the other two well-established non-league clubs in the city are Westfields and Pegasus, so no confusion arises (in the simple minds of regional FA blazers). Just a theory, mind….
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I may be wrong, but I seem to recall, again perhaps incorrectly, that this was suggested when the Borough was last liquidated and we became Nuneaton Town.
The reason then was perhaps the same as now.
Nuneaton F.C. are Nuneaton rugby club.
You will know that at the time when the codes were being written for both sports that many clubs were undecided as to where they were going in terms of rules.
Thus Leicester Football Club is, in fact, the Tigers - the rugby club. Leicester Fosse became Leicester City.
Perhaps someone will confirm or deny this.
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The Nuns are Nuneaton RFC, according to the signs on Eastborough Way
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