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Club Statement
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https://www.nuneatontownfc.co.uk/news/club-statement
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Re: Club Statement
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Lots of unanswered questions, but "it is what it is" and lessons have been learnt.
There are always 3 versions of the truth. "My side; your side and the actual truth"
Hopefully the new club will move on.
Sadly damage has been done. Some were waiting for this to fail; some didn't want it; some were skeptical.
That will take time to heal and sadly the club has not built up any "brownie points" to offset.
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Re: Club Statement
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Seems that the statement from DD wasn't the truth the fans needed to hear after all.
Nice bloke, but a loose cannon it seems.
Always best when airing dirty laundry in public to make sure the stains were not caused by your own shit.
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Re: Club Statement
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Hi Nathan, what statement were you referring to the subgroup resignation statement?
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Re: Club Statement
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Oh dear.....
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Oh dear indeed.
Are you contesting anything I posted there?
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Breadline
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Are you aware of the reasons Carl Nolan wast appointed?
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Re: Breadline
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Are you aware of the reasons Carl Nolan wast appointed?
**Goes off and googles Carl Nolan**
Good question, apart from the treasurer who found the deed and the board with which he shared the info is there anyone that knows the issue?
Does Carl know himsel? Was he given reasons why he was inline for the post but then had it cruelly ripped from his finger tips?
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Cruelly?
Why do you think it was cruelly ripped from his finger tips?
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Re: Breadline
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Because someone told him the job was his... and it wasn't.
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But DD denies anyone from the subcommittee telling the subcommittee's choice they had the job.
He also denied telling anyone at all who it was, but he has since admitted that may not have been true (because he told me), so who knows?
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Re: Breadline
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or defend himself if the reason was false/inaccurate/not in public domain?
Seems confidentiality promise was not as promised ;)
Guess its this one.
https://www.prolinecoaching.com/coaches
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Re: Breadline
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Correct.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Re: Breadline
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>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 16:39:45 on 21st May 2024
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Re: Breadline
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And what are you trying to say?
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Re: Breadline
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And?
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Re: Breadline
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ALL APPLICANTS WILL BE TREATED IN THE STRICKTES CONFIDENCE.
That included those directly involved from publicly naming or telling others to name.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Re: Breadline
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Has the club or anyone in the recruitment process named any applicants publicly?
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Re: Breadline
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They (or others involved) have told some people........Thats not keeping confidentiality.
https://forums.footballwebpages.co.uk/nuneaton/article/364878
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Re: Breadline
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Are you aware he had been approaching players to join him at Boro?
That was also mentioned here.
There are always several places information comes from.
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Edited by The_Hullablue at 16:53:40 on 21st May 2024
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Re: Breadline
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That was also mentioned here.
Actually I do remember a poster with some or other alias making claims his "mates" had been approached.
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Re: Breadline
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I suppose the polite thing to do, if you really want to know who told Davey, would be to ask Davey who told him, rather than ASSUME a breach from inside the club.
I k kW you don't like it when people ASSUME:-)
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Re: Breadline
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If the person had told other thats a different breach of confidentiality..... Announcing before the club had rubber stamped. Thats he stupidity.
I have no idea who told Davey. Stripes4me never mentioned a name. He knew, but respected confidentiality (as I would if I knew/worked with someone leaving their job).
When I have moved jobs I await a formal acceptance letter. Thats me.
I certainly would not want it announced before I told my current employers.
Steve Burr left Kiddy because it was discovered he had applied for the FGR job. I think same with Ashby (Brackley/Worcester).
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Re: Breadline
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So, you know there are multiple possibilities as to how the name of the person (allegedly) chosen by the subcommittee became public knowledge, so why did you ASSUME it was from the club side of things?
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Re: Breadline
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WAKE UP in the back!!!
There has to be some sort of wrong doing to make some folk happy and to give them something to write long, meaningless posts about.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Re: Club Statement
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Stinks for me .....
Stinks
Stinks
Stinks
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Stinks
Absolute bollocks the way this has been run.....
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Re: Club Statement
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Which bit stinks?
The bit where a director went rogue?
The bit where he quit over going rogue?
Or the bit where he went rogue again?
The board followed its procedures, everyone involved knew the remit.
As much as I love to put the boot in on football club owners, I don't think there is grounds this time.
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Re: Club Statement
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I have issues and questions BUT ITS TIME TO MOVE ON.
Hopefully those who chose to follow the club will move this mess to the back of their minds AND those who caused it will ensure it does not happen again and expectations are met.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Egos & resignations
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With the much trumpeted 'look at me' & 'i didnt get my own way' & 'i wanted to appoint the new manager cus i am a football god' resignations the chances of it being repeated have diminished considerably
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Re: Egos
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Lets move on
I am not happy that it seems Acton and co did not apply in the same way others did. Why and timeline would be interesting.
but lets move on.
As I said, there are 3 versions of the truth, with one unlikely ever to be known for sure
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 13:55:34 on 21st May 2024
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Re: Egos
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I am not happy that it seems Acton and co did not apply in the same way others did.
Or get interviewed the way others did.
But let's move on
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Maybe timescales wouldnt allow for that
Appointing a manager before mid june seems sensible to me
Lets move on
Sent from my eyephone
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They haven't .. they really haven't.
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Re: Club Statement
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Seems fair enough, just a shame there wasn't better communication between the parties Involved at the time
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Re: Club Statement
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'Let's move on'- Afraid I am not prepared to until the CIC Interim Board puts out an honest statement and reassures the supporters that they are really "at the heart of decision making". At present it looks like we are heading for another dictatorship.
Who decided to take on the management team of Acton and Dodds? I can see Elliott and Dunnachie agreeing to recruitment, with Chairman Cook having a casting vote. Would the Co-op reps of Evans, Lacrouts, and Hayward have opposed it in normal circumstances? Secretary Dean would not have a vote.
We are owed the truth, as this is not the vision promised for the new club and the credibility of the CIC is rapidly disappearing.
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Re: Club Statement
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Dunnachie did not vote as he resigned with the sub-group.
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I was under the impression he resigned from the board before the subcommittee quit.
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Re: Club Statement
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Hullablue confirmed this fact yesterday.
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Why do you assume that the board is at fault here? Why do you think that the individual that went public with an unapproved statement is the innocent party? Why do you think that the sub committee candidate should have been rubber stamped?
FYI I have had 3 jobs that I did not apply for, indeed I was unaware that there was even a vacancy until I was headhunted by a board of directors. It is normal practice.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Re: Club Statement
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the remit was clear. If head-hunted then by whom and why not told to apply through the agreed channels.
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Nuneaton Town FC is now inviting applications for the role of Team Manager for our recently established club for the coming 2024/25 season.
Nuneaton Town FC is a Community Interest Company with the Supporters Co-Operative involved in the decision-making and running of the club. It exists for the benefit of the community.
We will be applying to join the National League Pyramid (league competition TBC) at either Step 6 or 5, with the application to be considered and ratified at a League AGM to be held in June 2024.
We will be initially playing all home games at the home of Bedworth United FC (The Oval) on their excellent 3G pitch, with access to their impressive facilities on match days.
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β’ Proven experience as a Football Manager / Coach at Step 6 or above.
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β’ Good knowledge of football tactics, strategies and player development methods.
β’ Excellent leadership and communication skills.
β’ Strong analytical and decision-making abilities.
β’ Collaborate effectively with the Board and all club staff to ensure a cohesive and winning team environment.
β’ Holder of a UEFA C (Level 2) Coaching License (Minimum)
β’ Holder of a UEFA B or A Coaching License (Desirable)
If you feel that you have the necessary passion, experience, knowledge and qualifications to lead the club into an exciting new era please send a covering letter explaining why you would like to be considered for the role and a football CV to:
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Re: Club Statement
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I never had to apply for the jobs that I was headhunted for.
you are looking for issues where there are non, except for unauthorised statements.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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The board had the right to appoint there own candidate if they were unhappy with the one selected by the sub committee, I think it's as simple as that
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Correct
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Sadly That's true Davey.
The Board are on the top table and can do whatever they want.
If they want to pretend the fans are having an input in sourcing candidates for the managers job and choose to do their own headhunting in the meantime then who the hell are we to criticise.
It's their Club.
Volunteers, sub groups and the likes of the co-op will get their little rub on the head from time to time and a polite "thanks for your help, time and input but it's our club and we really do know what's best for it"
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Fans are decision makers
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All board members are Boro fans
2 who are constantly harassed & will always be on the end of toxic comments no matter what they do
The others are Boro fans of many years standing who have no connection to the running of the previous regime
It is totally misleading to let the hatred of 2 board members cloud the facts that the board does have fans at the centre of decision making
Thankfully the majority of fans are sensible enough to see this
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Re: Fans are decision makers
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Derek Dunnachie - long term JG supporter (check historical boro chat). Also part of JGs steering group at points.
Justin Palmer - sponsor of Jimmy. Supporter then non supporter of JG.
Mark Lacrouts - check JG posting Mark gifting badges for the Iβll-fated βboost the budgetβ.
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Re: Fans are decision makers
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Also sponsor of players & grant creater of Β£10k.
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Mark has been a Boro fan as long as I remember.
He has made and donated badges for Boro to sell several times.
He supported The Boro, not any particular owner.
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What a pessimistic and negative attitude.
The board did nothing devious and underhand. The fault in all of this was down to one individual trying to be clever.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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I don't think he was trying to be clever, he just wanted to keep fans in the loop.
He did this in the wrong way.
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Re: Club Statement
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Or was he trying to force the board into a corner cus he/ the footy group had already told the proposed candidate the job was his or were trying to force there candidate over the line
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Re: Club Statement
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I don't think the group had told their preferred candidate that the job was his because that wasn't the groups job.
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It was also not their job to announce "We have a manager(s)", but one of them did.
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Re: Club Statement
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That's right, his post on Facebook didn't go down well with the board or the rest of the sub group.
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How did his second post go down, the one he also made on here, seemingly on behalf of the subcommittee?
I have seen nothing at all from the rest of the football subcommittee to say they do mot agree with what was said in that group's name.
All I have seen is what yiu are saying they feel.
Who are they?
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Re: Club Statement
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There isn't a sub group anymore so I've no idea.
I'm curious as to why you're leading this distraction from the actions of the club.
All this "don't look there, look here"
The "Derek said, Derek said" posts.
Whatever Derek posted on Facebook and the board telling him to resign has nothing to do with the sub group quitting.. you know that right?
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Re: Club Statement
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I have spoken several times about the actions of the club.
As far as I can see, the board didn't do anything it said it wouldn't and didn't not do anything it said it would.
Sure, the board should have said "we are not appointing your guy for these reasons" to the subcommittee, but based solely on DDs statement, seemingly on behalf of the committee, it looks like they had a flounce because they didn't get their way and the board had to look for thier own alternatives.
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it looks like they had a flounce because they didn't get their way and the board had to look for thier own alternatives.
This bit mate.. this bit is big time wrong.
It's hugely incorrect.
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Re: Club Statement
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Correct me then.
Please.
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The statement he made here, on Sunday, outlined the reasons he is giving for them quitting.
Each time anyone says "they knew their job was not to appoint/announce/confirm the manager" the post from the leader of the subcommittee doing exactly that is 100% proof that the leader of the subcommittee did not know that was not his role, because he did it.
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Edited by The_Hullablue at 21:41:00 on 21st May 2024
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Re: Club Statement
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I'll be honest
That made my eyes bleed reading that.
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Who did then , he was calling players before he had even met the board to play for him at Ntfc , somebody must have told him for him to do that , nobody in there right mind would assume they where getting the job
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Re: Club Statement
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I've no idea why he chose to get in touch with your mates about playing.
I don't know the man, I don't know if he's that cock sure of himself that he'd think the job was his without it being confirmed by the club
What I do know is that the group were fully aware it wasn't their job to appoint a manager. It was only their job to do the process. Then present their favoured candidate to the board.
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Re: Club Statement
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What we all know is that at least one member of that group announced "We have a manager(s)".
That doesn't strike me as the actions of so done fully aware that "We have a candidate that we are confident the board will like and appoint"
Maybe that is the type of mistep that would lead to "Congrtulations we have chosen you to be manager" rather than "Congratulations we are going to pit you forward to the board for them to decide".
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Re: Club Statement
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My thoughts were just to update the fanbase. I accept trying to be transparent, to an extent, was/is not done that way.
We delivered the 5 candidates but not one of us revealed to anyone anything about any candidate. Especially for purposes of manager confidentiality as they might already be in a role etc.
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Re: Club Statement
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Oh come on DD.
You told me who your candidate and his assistant was last Friday, you also gave massive hints about who the actual manager was going to be.
You cannot seriously say not one of you revealed anything about the candidates to anyone.
I can accept that you didn't *know* who was going to be appointed but you strongly suspected it, but I cannot accept you saying that you didn't say anything to anyone about the subcommittee choice.
You told me.
We chatted about the assistant as I had no previous idea who the manager was.
Remember that?
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Re: Club Statement
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This was the topic of most/all discussions regards preferred candidate as you will elude to. Throughout the evening the name was banded around, well before our meet up.
I was no longer a director nor subgroup member. I'm a fan & always will be but we all do have to take stock, consider life, enjoy life & get behind the club.
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Long and short of it is you have claimed to have not told anyone about the subcommittee choice, but you told me and you claimed to have not known who was chosen but you pretty much told me.
Nice that you are not denying that.
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Re: Club Statement
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He was aware of the groups job.
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He did not stick to it.
That much is 100% clear.
DD has made several statements claiming to be on behalf of the football subcommittee that are full of holes and inaccuracies.
Nothing has been said by any of the other members to distance themselves from those statements.
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His job on the sub group was to be part of the interview process and present the groups favoured candidate to the board wasn't it?
If the answer to that is Yes.. then I'm struggling to see why you'd think he didn't do the job as to my knowledge the sub group presented their favoured candidate.
Unless you're about to waffle on about Facebook again........
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Not just Facebook, but on here too.
And he had quit before he presented the candidate to the board, hadn't he?
It seems very much like he also told the candidate he had been successful. That wasn't his job.
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Re: Club Statement
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Absolutely not how I perform. You are wrong regards me telling....π
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The sub group presented the favoured candidate.
If DD was still part of the sub group at that stage then so be it, if he'd resigned by that stage then fair enough.
The reason I don't know is because it's a distraction and massively unimportant as to why the sub group quit.
So DD is also responsible for telling the candidate he had the job? π€£
Anything else he's responsible for?
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Re: Club Statement
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Someone made the subcommittee's choice think he was going to be announced as manager.
Unless a second person went rogue, it would seem logical to think DD may have been a little over enthusiastic, as we now know he can be.
Why did the subcommittee quit? So far we only have DD's version of events.
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The statement was created & proof read for agreement by the subgroup members as a collective, then delivered by myself as requested by the group.
As for a 'manager' asking players to join him, why not! players are being snapped up through this time by all managers. That wasn't our choice to tell.
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They quit because instead of the club working with them them the club were working behind their backs.
The group (and me and hopefully other fans) expected transparency and openess. They were supposed to be working together.. for one another.
I'll prempt a question.
No, the group never got it in writing from the club that they wouldnt go headhunting behind their backs.
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Re: Club Statement
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So they quit because the board did something that at no point no one at all said they were not to do?
If the person the subcommittee put forward was not seemed suitable by the board, for whatever reason, what did the subcommittee think would happen?
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View the other candidates due to them seeing something positive, they were good candidates. If not at least use the process.
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No, they quit because the club said they'd be open and transparent... and they weren't.. not by a long long way.
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Re: Club Statement
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So why the drama at the weekend , just accept the decision , it doesnt add up like lots of things
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What doesn't add up?
What drama at the weekend?
The decision has been accepted, the way the decision was reached hasn't and never will be.
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The drama & things that dont add up were on facebook at the weekend , if I read one of your replys correctly it made me think you are not on facebook , if im wrong sorry
there are a number of holes appearing in the footy groups facts which makes them haveing a problem the way the decision was reached questionable , as stated throughout this thread
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Re: Club Statement
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You're right mate, Facebook and especially Boro Chat ain't for me π
You mentioned "the footy groups facts".. do you mean Derek?
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to be honest at the weekend wish I werent on it lol
not sure and that much was posted i cant be arsed to double check but I think what was posted made me think it was on behalf of the group not just 1 or 2 of them , if ive got that wrong sorry
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Re: Club Statement
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I don't know him well at all, so maybe he is more conniving than I think, but I really think it was misplaced enthusiasm.
Sunday's statement, however, is almost a Trumpian double down.
I do think the board were wrong not to let unsuccessful candidates know before the announcement.
I do think the board were wrong to not ensure all the members of the subcommittee knew who was being appointed.
But I think on all sides I am going to attribute naivety over malice.
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It is just a theory , i may be doing him wrong , but I cannot shake the fact that the very same day as that post his candidate was asking players to play for him
If unsuccessful candidates were not told before the announcement that is piss poor , I agree , but again have only seen that stated by 1 side of the story so who knows
According to the timelines on facebook over the weekend the footy group quit before the appointment was made so there was no longer any footy group to notify
This is one of the many holes in stuff that as been missed by people lapping up the 1 sided so called facts that were posted at the weekend
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Understandable, your thoughts & comments. There's method in the madness, apparently.
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I MUST listen to myself and Lets move on and many are not happy.
I know the following is hypothetical and "what if", but it seems the style at the moment :)
What if....... He expected to get the job and was just sounding out mates?..... "If I get the Nuneaton job would you be interested. I think I have a damn good chance"
What if Acton did the exact same to Marsden (but this was not leaked by Marsden).
I remember going to car dealers to see what company car I could get if/when I was offered the job I fully expected. I got the Job,.,,,,,,,and had a hand-me-down Toyota Prius Hybrid.........always felt I was a Uber driver :)
LETS MOVE ON
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 19:10:48 on 22nd May 2024
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All those who want the club to succeed MOVE ON
All those who dont want the club to succeed.......BYE
All these who are indifferent. Remain undecided :)
To come all over Trumpism ...... "There are facts and there are alternative facts"
Also, there are your facts; my facts and the actual facts. Rarely do they all agree.
also
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I think that is a bit cynical and over simplistic.
I think on this occasion one director, who happened to be the one on the football subcommittee went rogue, a few times, and that has had a massive impact in things.
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Only by displaying a fan comment that was taken down after 6 minutes at the request of ML. It was also a fan forum not an official website of the club. Wrong yes, what would I change? Learn to discuss first.π€·
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Why did that sub committee quit?
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My theory is cus the chance to play Real life football manager & the glory of being important was whipped from under there feet by people who put the club before self importance
What did your Google of the alleged candidate yield
Would you have been happy with his appointment
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Your first bit is complete and utter bollocks.
Your next bit about the Google search .. I clicked the link VS posted, a very quick read made me think he'd probably have been OK...
FWIW, I'm chuffed Acco has the job, gotta lot of time for him.
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I have no preference either.
Just curious to know what Acton had above all other candidates. I can think of one/two but they were not advantages (IMO).
Im pretty meh to the whole club. Of ALL involved I only know two or three to talk to and only cant even picture most. No sides, just think a lot of wrongs done on all sides.
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I don't know but I suspect that when the board decided they weren't happy with Carl Nolan, supposedly because of something Lee Heyward had told them about him, and who was the sub committee choice, they had to find another manager and approached Acton and Dodds
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When Nolan was put forward by the sub group the group were told it was now a choice between Nolan and Acco & Dodd.
The Club didn't go looking for Acco & Dodd after Nolan was presented.
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I think that is incorrect , im sure I read at weekend board only responded to Acco & Dodds APPLICATION AFTER interviewing the footy groups candidate
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Which part do you think is incorrect?
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the timeline of events
have read somewhere application of acco & dodds was received after footy groups candidate interview
think justin Palmer may have confirmed this on facebook at weekend but not sure
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They could have presented Pep and it would have been a waste of time.
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That's just silly. Boro could not afford the compensation.
Klopp maybe; Pep never :)
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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again I think that is incorrect
as stated above sure its written somewhere that additional application was only pursued AFTER footy groups candidate was interviewed
tells me that the interview did not convince the board he was right for the club
so in that situation what would you want the board to do
just appoint him to keep footy group happy and fans would be blissfully unaware or interview & appoint someone else probably knowing they would face a backlash from footy group
personally id rather the board have the balls to make a tougher decision over the easier option if they believe it is best for the club
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Youre curious as to what Acco had above all......The Club would have had a struggle selling Nolan to the fans.
Clearly there's fans that want distance from previous regimes (like yourself).. the Club think there's more fans that want the past to become the present.. kit colour, Club badge etc. The club think Acco is a crowd pleaser from the off (which in all fairness he probably is) which is why they didn't want someone we'd all have to Google.
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But βconnection with previous clubβ was not in the remit of the job advert/description
Someone could have ticket all the boxes and applied and not known they didnβt have what the board wanted..
So anyone without any previous connection to the club had zero chance.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Maybe the reason that "connection to the previous club" wasn't in the ad, was that wasn't part of the search criteria, hence the rest of your assumptions are null and void.
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My response was to jebbs assertion.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Remember the last time we all had to Google a new manager?
That went very badly
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Yup.
That was a disaster.
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I liked him at first.
Even got me self a tank top.
Blue one.. of course
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My first bit was a question / theory and could easily be a load of bollocks or a possibility
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I think that is unduly harsh.
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Possibly is , if im wrong then sorry , only the footy group know for sure
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This is probably very near the truth.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Derek posted on both forums about his reasons for it.
Seeing as I do not know who the others were, I cannot comment on if all of then agreed to his version.
I do know though that he has not been able to offer explanation as to what the board did that was outside the remit/agreements etc with the subcommittee.
It seems from DD's own admission, the subcommittee knew that the board was not going to just runberstamp the subcommittee's recommendation and that the board had never said that if the subcommittee recommendation was not deemed acceptable they would ask the subcommittee to go through the process again.
So, in short, despite Derek making several posts, his story is very light on details and facts, and heavy on accusations he has not been able to back up.
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Think I remember him. Proper busy bloke with a clipboard?
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Derek was quite literally removed of his duties because of his Facebook posts... something the sub group completely understood and accepted.
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I believe Jutin Palmer also quit
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I don't think that's true Davey. (Although sincere apologies if I'm wrong)
One other board member offered his resignation but was talked out of it by someone on here.
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Oh OK I thought from his posts on Boro Chat he was suggesting he had also quit
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Was he on the board, or the football subcommittee?
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My Impression was the sub committee but I may be wrong
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To coin a football term...
His role was in the middle, a floater, a link between groups
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I'm sure he'd love being described as "a floater" :-)
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So why did they resign?
Because the reasons listed in DD's second post seem to be "the board didn't do as we said, even though they never said they would do".
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So why did they resign?
The club carried out its own recruitment behind the back of the sub group.
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I think that you are wrong. There is nothing wrong with having multiple recruitment channels.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Did they do that before or after they decided the person the subcommittee recommended wasn't suitable?
Did the board say they only method of finding a new manager was via the subcommittee?
I have no doubt the subcommittee did a really good job, but if the person they put forward wasn't right for the board, what do you think should have happened?
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Did they do that before or after they decided the person the subcommittee recommended wasn't suitable?
They did that when they presented their choice and were then told it was a choice between two.
That's the first they'd heard there were two candidates and then it became clear that the Board had run its clandestine interviews behind their back.
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I do feel bad they feel the board went behind their back.
I feel bad if they were made to think the board would runberstamp their suggestion and not look for alternatives in case the subcommittee's choice wasn't deemed suitable.
And I do feel for them that their choice wasn't deemed suitable, especially if they missed an important thing.
But I don't think any of that is the board's fault.
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I'm actually trying to catch up on differing comments.
We didn't feel bad at all. It was because we had a process set up for all candidates but it wasn't continued. This was the transparency for what we have always asked for as fans.
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At no point did they think their approval would be rubberstamped by the Board
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That was up to the board, yes jebbsβ
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So why were they upset when another option was chosen?
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As they never applied using the standardised process that the other 26 applicants did. They new the cut off dates like everyone else.
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I don't think they were upset that another option was chosen.
I think they were upset that they were told they'd be doing the process and at no point were they told that the Board of the FC would be doing their own thing.
Had the Club told the group what they had planned from the very start none of this would have happened.
I may be alone here (and it certainly looks like it) but I wanted openess from the Club I wanted honesty from the Club and I wanted integrity.
Currently the Club has none of those things.
They should have been honest with the group from the beginning, told them what they were doing, keep the group informed.. they were all supposed to be working together for the greater good.
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What did you expect the board to do when the recommendation of the subcommittee was deemed unsuitable?
Ask you for your second choice?
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That would be normal practice.
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That would be normal practice.
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If someone suggests someone/thing that is not fit for purpose, I wouldn't go back to them for their second choice.
If the best isn't good enough, second best would be even less so.
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I think the whole problem arises from the sub committee being appointed before the actual board. More members of the actual board should have been involved in the selection process.
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I think the whole thing was rushed.
I said at the time I favoured a βyear offβ to get things done properly and the anger of the previous owner softened.
That said - I fully understand why the rush.
I think the club folded at the wrong time logistically - any sooner then more time; any later and not enough time.
Usually clubs fold early in the season or at the end.
Are there any examples of new clubs starting mid-season?
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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The statement released today says the actual process was discussed at 2 board meetings weeks ago , the footy group director would be either in attendance or have received minutes of the meeting I would think
Yet another of a growing number of holes in what was posted at the weekend
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Part of the process was indeed discussed at 2 meeting
I think you're referring about Derek posts at the weekend, I know nothing about that.
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Do we know when the board decided to "do their own thing"?
Was it before or after they decided not to do as the football subcommittee suggested?
Before or after the director on the subcommittee went off telling everyone they had a manager(s)?
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Apologies if this has been asked and/answered, but why DIDN'T Acco apply for the job in the first place? Did he know he didn't need to?
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Was the sub committee set up before the official Board was formed?
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Yes it was created from volunteers with the skillset to carry out the recruitment process 4+ JPalmer
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Didn't they say they didn't speak to Acco, Dodds till after sub committee quit?
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The board told the group that the job was between Nolan and another candidate (turned out to be Acco & Dodd).
That's the first the group had heard about another candidate.
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was that before they quit , the same day they quit , after they quit
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They were told about the new candidates, then quit once it became clear how the candidates had got to be in the the final 2.
This new club was building its foundations on honesty, openess and transparency, all that went out the window.
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All that went out the window you said , thats according to 1 side , seen differently by the other
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Yes of course mate.
In my opinion, I'd laugh every time I see the club post about its aim to have openness and transparency.
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Has I posted somewhere else thats what I thought
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Only the board know when they decided to do their own thing , only the board know when they decided to do their work behind the backs of the group instead of working with them.
It was clearly before the group presented their favoured choice because at that point the club told them about another candidate.
Derek's post didn't go down well with either the Club or the group.
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I may be wrong but I thought justin palmer put on facebook at the weekend that he accepted the process from the board was after the groups candidate was interviewed
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Anything called "The Board" must be wrong.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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Yes that's certainly what JG used to think.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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By their own admission they knew the Board may not accept their recommendation yet they seem put out that the Board made their own choice
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It was because the process was not used. Not because who they are (I know you didn't say thatπ)
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But the process failed.
It would be madness to expect the second d best option through the process to be better than the first.
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In most interviews if the preferred candidate turns down the job the runner up gets offered the job. If the other wasnβt good enough then they shouldnβt have reached the interview stage.
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The preferred candidate not turn down the job here, he was rejected.
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Can you bold the bit where it says "If this process is not successful in finding the right person, we will still appoint them" or words to that effect.
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Dunnachei and Haward did not have a vote.
Why do you think the statement issued was not an honest one?
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Without the facts, I can't decide on my future support for the club.
'Dunnachei and Haward did not have a vote.' - This confuses me even more - Why does Dunnachie not get a vote as he is on the Board? If there is nothing to hide why isn't the confirmation of voting not put out in the public domain? It seems like certain supporters have privileged information and if this club is to be open with fans why is it not shared with all? No way of knowing if the statement is an honest one based on the above,
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I don't think that some supporters have privileged information, just that they are not so quick to damn without reason.
Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing youβre shit.
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He quit the board after he announced "we have a manager(s)" on Boro Chat before the board had even been presented with the subcommittee findings.
Haword doesn't get a vote as he is not on the board.
These facts are in the public domain, not privileged info leaked to certain fans.
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Many thanks for clarifying.
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I THINK those who vote are those who are listed as directors
.https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/15658146/officers
what I think most people are missing is this is neither a fan-owned club (in typical definition) or a director/owner owned club. It's a hybrid with rules to prevent a Boro-Leisure situation).
Given this, what can and cant be shared is even more subjective.
I would love the minutes to be public (with caveats).
I just hope coop are not hamstrung by the set up.
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