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Time for plain speaking
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FWIW
...Don't give a fuck about Jimmy Ginnelly, Greg Kazaboni, Armchair Vulture or anyone else from the past , tbh.. Never spoken to any of them, never will. Don't know what they look like. Don't care. They can take their life journey in one direction from now on and I'll take mine. Don't give a fuck either, about who does and doesn't turn up at The Oval. (Although some absences this season are HUGELY appreciated). By all means stay away from following the BoroTown forever. But hey! Do the rest of us a favour eh? And stop banging on and on and ON about it.
I have really enjoyed this season. By comparison the last three or four have been utter shite. 857 last saturday suggests that the gloaters and ghouls are not really all that missed and are certainly not needed. If they could do us the additional favour though also, of staying away from the Forum, and desist from raking up the same old boring muck up, in a (vain) attempt to spoil the party and dilute the current good feeling about the "new" (lol!) club, why that would be an additional bonus.
(Stands back and awaits the vilification).
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Edited by SnappyNBFCcroc at 00:59:35 on 12th April 2025
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A bit of plain speaking to you sauce who ever you are.
Couldn’t give a toss what you say- some of us have skin in the game regarding Boro and it’s history - I did 45 years and like you have gone all around the country, spent fortunes and helped the coop in the past- it was me, who for no reward whatsoever produced design solutions to provide a disabled facility for Boro fans that needed it. My reason for ending my support was mainly due to the total disregard for long standing Boro supporters who didn’t stand for all the hype that JG and his army threw at us. All those who didn’t worship at his alter and warned what would happen were vilified for not towing the line. Some including me were verbally abused at games and via online platforms and so called supporters group. My other half who supported Boro for 20 years with me will never watch the club again after I was verbally abused at a game - I gave what I got but she no longer felt safe amongst certain individuals who described themselves as ardent Boro fans but who vociferously backed those who’s hubris destroyed the club yet again.
So hold the opinions you wish but perhaps you should remember that f you purport to love a club you should perhaps stand up for it when it is threatened.
You do seem to have been very adept at pontificating at what Boro supporters should think and have a long standing tradition on here for belittling smaller clubs and giving it the “look at us “ we’re massive mantra.
Sorry Sauce but unlike you I am actually Nuneaton born and bred and totally understand the history of both the town and its football club.
I’m done but knowing some individuals now involved I hope for a successful future but burying your head in the sand and eradicating what has gone before will not help. Having a fan base of 500 and playing teams with support below 50-100 might serve you well today but when Town do return to the previous level it might not be very plain sailing.
Don’t count your chickens before they hatch as they say.
Summing up Sauce I couldn’t give a fuck what you think- you’re not from Nuneaton and will never understand the connection that real Nuneaton people had or have with the club and why some continue to believe it had a future when others have thrown in the towel and have accepted the whole thing always fails sooner or later and has gone under more times than a famous French scuba diver.
Enjoy while you can and I hope it gives you everything you want .
But as far as you are concerned mr Nuneaton I don’t give a monkeys toss what you or anyone else thinks as to why I ended m support for an institution with a long track record of failure and broken promises.
So revel in the current success and tie your Boro banners up at village clubs - you’ll probably enjoy that more than watching Boro draw 0-0 with Hartlepool in the National league.
Edited by Armchair vulture at 21:14:56 on 1st April 2025
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“ Having a fan base of 500 and playing teams with support below 50-100 might serve you well today but when Town do return to the previous level it might not be very plain sailing.”
A very good point to be honest. Yes, people are attending because we are ran properly and with openness, but there is also some truth that people are simply enjoying seeing us dick village teams with no fans week after week too.
It will be interesting to see what crowds are like when we aren’t the odds on favourites every week and have a losing run at step 4 for example sake in November and December.
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If we budget to run on a maximum of 300 fans then see how we do. We should be ok up to and including the Southern League Midland Premier. Which would be a great achievement over the next ten years.
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I think your 'within 10-years' framework to return to the Southern League Premier Central is very realistic for the new Club.
Let me now add some Stadium logic to your thinking...
I believe that Nuneaton Town FC CIC should be considering remaining at The Oval for at least another 5 years.
I say that because that's how long (IMO) the NBBC planning process will take (at best) to find a suitable site & for the new Club to commence the build programme for a new Stadium in the town of Nuneaton.
Now, it has to be remembered that The Oval (IMO) will only be suitable for playing at Level 7/Step 3 (the SLPC).
To progress to the National League North, the Oval will need further development...back to FUTURE-PROOFING.
Now the dilemma, if the present custodians of the new Club think it is a dilemma?
If progress on the field is better than expected (& I am sure that is what the supporters would like to see?) the existing arrangement at The Oval/the new Stadium build (if possible) will need to keep pace with the on-field progress...
...the OFF-FIELD stuff needs to stay ahead of the ON-FIELD stuff JUST-IN-TIME...
Just my thoughts!
Edited by VoR at 12:05:44 on 3rd April 2025
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Fortunately, as we don't know each other (and I'll keep watching whilst you are staying away) our paths won't cross except on here.
Almost certainly for the best and at no loss to either of us.
Pax Vobiscum. xxx
Edited by Plastic Boro at 22:11:02 on 1st April 2025
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Suits me - will see in 10 years time when you're back at wheel tappers and shunters fc telling them how massive the new Nuneaton United are and how Tin pot they are -
Sorry sauce - you're just a plastic Boro supporter who's dog once walked into.town and gave you a reason to enhance your mister all things Nuneaton credentials.
Dulce et decorum est pro boro mori
Or in your case let the club die every 15 years and get exited paying to watch semi.parks.football- far better than playing at a decent level and perhaps that should be the.new model.
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TBH .... I've got very excited to be watching semi Parks football this season .....
I know it won't continue the higher we go but for now I've throughly enjoyed this season
Edited by Lord of the Manor at 07:56:13 on 3rd April 2025
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Spot on LOTM . Reading through these threats is mindboggeling . Enjoy the here and now refusing to allow ourselves to enjoy it either due to the fact that things previously went wrong or it will get more difficult in the future is just a crazy way to go about things .
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I've not seen any threats, or anyone saying not to enjoy it.
I am genuinely intrigued to see what crowds will be like when we aren't the biggest team in the league winning comfortably all the time. Don't see anything wrong with being intrigued/having an opinion.
I'm delighted we are doing well NOW, nothing wrong with thinking of the FUTURE too.
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Meant threads not threats .
I don't think the crowds will improve that much next season to the casual fans playing Bugbrooke St Michael or Leicester Nirvana won't be any different to say Saffron Dynamo or Smethwick Rangers .
Having said that the crowds this season have gone way beyond what i expected . Needs noting that these crowds have been achieved with virtually no away support . Taking the lack of away support into consideration the crowds probably match what we we're getting in the SL and even the Conferance at times .
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Fans came because they were curious at first, then because we were winning regularly....
Yes, that will change. Crowds will drop ..
1. Prices will rise the higher we go.
2. The higher we go, the less we win.
3. The less we win, the fewer people will go.
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Prices do not have to rise especially up to Southern League Premier level- possibly £10 at that level. Keep the wage bill down and compete with a team that wants to play. Forget big wages, has-been players and players in it for the money. More importantly forget big investors.
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Nuneaton Town FC CIC have already announced an increase in the new club's budget for next season.
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Yes I know. I just think they need to be cautious in the long run. They are planning based upon 300 which is fine but once they start planning for over 400 or start increasing prices over £10 they need to be careful of falling into the old traps.
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IMO, to make any impression in the SLPC (Level 7/Step 3) they will need to be thinking £5,000 a week.
That's £200,000 over a 40-week playing season.
Plus the 12-weeks closed season, say another £20,000 minimum lump sum.
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What are other club’s budgets?
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I bet you didn’t enjoy your sabbatical as much as I did.
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Why the consistent pedantry with the CIC FC ? Some might accuse you of reverting to type if you’re not careful. Recreational football has again popped out too. So predictable VoR I’m sorry to say.
As one door closes,another one opens.
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Apparently my views do not represent the views of the majority of Town supporters!
Is this Boro/Town or Town/Boro?
To avoid any confusion with my posts, I thought it best to refer to the new Club by it's correct title.
For me it is Nuneaton Town FC CIC & it is 'the Town'.
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You may take an apple off the sideboard VoR.
As one door closes,another one opens.
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Just asking for a friend.....
Will that apple bear fruit ? If so what will it be called ?
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Just asking for a friend.....
Will that apple bear fruit ? If so what will it be called ?
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Fair comment. I didn’t dare say it before we achieved it but I think it would have been a huge setback if we hadn’t gone up this season.
I think it’s important to remember at all times that this time last year we were worried we wouldn’t have a Club to support. There was the shambles of the H&H bid, no ground and false hopes about Gala Fields.
People were sat in a room scratching their heads about coming up with solutions to save a good standard of football for Nuneaton.
Given those challenges and starting the playing side from scratch with appointment of managerial team and finding players. It’s been a fantastic achievement.
I love memories of Manor Park. The antics of Neale and Thorn and their disregard for the town of Nuneaton disillusioned me for a long time. But this is a fresh start and whilst it’s ok to remember Boro of old we don’t want the Neale reputational legacy or the debts Boro leisure still holds or it’s angry creditors who are rightly concerned about what they are owed.
Onwards!
Edited by Gustavus at 10:46:44 on 3rd April 2025
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Perhaps it was supposed to read ‘threads’ not ‘threats’?
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Maybe so.
I'll just become a lurker and 'viewer' rather than posting from now on mind.
It seems- even if you think and say what the new club has achieved so far is brilliant, and how well it's ran etc etc- if you say anything different/realistic/questionable as opposed to blowing smoke up the new clubs arse constantly, your views, comments and opinions aren't welcome by some (on here I mean, not club reps who are sound)
So I simply won't say them.
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I think the way you share your views is perfectly fine Moley and shared by many, and I hope you and everyone else continues to discuss the club and its way foward.
However, to me, for some other posters (not yours) posts contain a level of vitriol and personal animosity which cloud the points they are making and sours the forum discussion.
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Hope is not a plan.
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Mark
for what its worth i believe everyone connected with the club can feel proud for their achievements
to put a team out, to even have a club to support and then walk the league from scratch
has been a fine effort by all concerned on and off the field.
where do we go from here ? i dont know but im sure
people are already sitting down planning the next step
hence i genuinely wish everyone the very best.
again well done.
UTB.
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we all have our own views on the club past and present.
to me its a somewhat sad reflection when
posters cant discuss the club without getting personal
i read loads on here that dont interest me or indeed agree with
so what !!! its not my place to shout down others views or indeed decide what they post/think/debate
BUT i respect ALL.
if your not prepared to engage in an open forum or try and dictate to others what they should and should not
post then im sorry your wrong.
i often post nostalgic crap guilty as charged
but hey ho they are my memories.
THIS CLUB did not start this season !!!! yes i know BLAH BLAH etc etc.
the fans watching it have not suddenly sprung up this season, many on here and readers alike have followed it for decades
yes its a phoenix club and lets all hope it thrives
but you cant just BIN a lifetime of memories good or bad because of yet another new start.
if you want to shout me down go ahead
cus i dont give a fxxk. my skin is too thick these days anyway.
cheers :-)
ps. btw i still do support the club.... 10 quid a month.
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