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The Nuns
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Just to cheer us up, This season Nuns have Played11 and Lost 11 and been battered in all of them.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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Re: The Nuns
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Nuns getting battered everywhere they go lol
#BoroFanof50years#
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We mustn't gloat
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It's not nice. It's really sad when your favourite Sports club goes down the toilet.
We should know....
Sounds like they need a cash injection. Wonder if 600+ paying customers every fortnight might help?
I'll get my coat...
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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Im more than happy playing at Bedworth .... they can run and jump.
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me too
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No potholes: approach well lit : easy parking: friendly bar staff and kiosk staff: Wetherspoons nearby:
However: I'm open minded and a great believer in Never Say Never.
( With the exception of one individual who saved the club. :-)
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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Personally i'd go back to LW in shot but only if everything was right . In Fact any move back to Nuneaton will need to be right , don't want a move back that going to become a problem down the line . In the meantime perfectly happy at Bedworth how ever long it takes .
I know its controversial but i don't really have a problem with the Nuns think a lot of our fans look at the situation through blue tinted glasses and in fact we treated the nuns pretty poorly and caused a lot of our own problems .
Edited by almost average 2 at 10:04:41 on 14th December 2025
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Corporate use of "we"
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I never really had a problem with the nuns until Skipgate et al, which I thought was well over the top. ( If we had been a fan run or fan owned club run along the line we are running on now most of that probably would not have happened).
When you say "we" treated them badly, I personally did not. I followed their results: I went to the occasional game and have attended events in their clubhouse before our eviction and since.
I did nothing to hurt them and neither did most Boro fans.
I can't be held personally responsible for imbeciles with a power complex who would not listen to good advice.
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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If we returned we would need proper access, a proper road, new bar and changing rooms all to be provided by the landlords. Alternatively we buy the ground, the Nuns clubhouse and all land between the gates, the drive and the strip of land by the turnstiles.
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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When your wife or partner kicks you out never give back cos it rarely works
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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The nuns did not kick the Boro out
In fact, to start with it was the other way.
The nuns didn’t sell the ground either.
Times move on.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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In a roundabout way they did, all who were connected to it had connections with the rugby club. ( cant remember names ) .... i will agree what goes around comes around .... and that started with I.N
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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As mentioned the relationship between Nuns and the Boro was okay for one season, that was when we moved in. They were pretty excited has there ground by their standards was getting a mega face lift without them spending a penny plus from what I heard they could use the Boro facilities like changing rooms for cheap as chips... poor business from Boro that, no wonder we went bang at the end of that year.
When then the new club coming into action as Nuneaton Town, Ian Neale tore up whatever deal there was stating with it being a new club the old agreement with the Nuns no longer existed. A new offer was put on the table which was hell of lot more than the Nuns were prepared to pay, it was a take it or leave it offer from Neale who if I'm being honest was not bothered if the Nuns played there or not. In face maybe even wanted them out. After that the war began, after that even with different chairman or owners at the club. The nuns tried to negotiate a new deal, but the same terms applied, eventually Nuns took the childish route with the old skip gate trying to force their terms once again and almost holding the club to ransom. Eventually something was agreed but even then terms that were agreed the Nuns still weren't satisfised. Obviously for years they been hatching this plan to get Liberty Way back, even if it meant somehow kicking us out. They got what they wanted but now have shot themselves in the foot with it. They are playing in a ground too big for them, paying for a pitch they cannot afford sucking up the playing budget.
Don't rule an random offer come on table in the summer for a possible Town return. They may look at the situation now and realise staying and paying the rent alone at Liberty Way may kill off the Nuns.
#BoroFanof50years#
Edited by StockingfordBrew at 22:09:46 on 14th December 2025
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Different view
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My slant on the ground-share is somewhat different.
The Boro were going to be made homeless and there was no other option available. Plus, add in the Stocker factor.
Boro could not afford to build a stadium AND pay the going rate for the land.
The compromise would be offer a lower payment and a favourable long term ground share agreement.
The Nuns got the money they needed with assurances of long term tenure at a low prices and Boro got somewhere to build a stadium.
I am NOT one for conspiracies, but I can't help think the way it panned out was planned from the day stocker gave his presentation which ensured Boro would never go bust.
Stocker got his money; Neale got the contract; Neale got the ground and the Nuns suffered.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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And
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.....Rank and File supporters of Nuneaton Borough/Town and Nuneaton RFC (as I continue to assert), had nothing to do with any of these shenanigans.
They just wanted to continue watching their local clubs. In some cases, both clubs.
Both sets of supporters have been dicked over by "business men." Period.
How refreshing then, to be following nowadays, a club run by the current organisation. Who FINALLY seem to know what they are doing. And why.
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Re: And and
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Imagine the outrage if the club had announced three years ago it was leaving LW to ground share at Bedworth.
To me, not serious considering a return to LW would be foolish
* it’s in Nuneaton
* there is a pitch in place
* amenities are adequate for immediate requirements.
* expansion possible (ready for FL 😀😀😀😇😇😇)
* no resident objections.
* not suitable for domestic housing.
* opportunity to negotiate a proper long term agreement that will satisfy the owners, nuns and boro.
* I can’t see it being used for commercial proposes - is there not some sort of protection on the land - not that that counts for much.
* the nuns have other land they could use if commercial pressure/opportunity comes calling.
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
Edited by VS Boro at 13:21:29 on 15th December 2025
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Re: And and
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Vs so why has the council given us a 49 year lease for land in stockingford then eh I’m sorry but a return to liberty way is not possible or happening simples
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Re: And and
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So the move to Vale View is "signed sealed and delivered then" and not "49 year lease has been approved in principle by Nuneaton & Bedworth Borough Council cabinet for Vale View (or an alternative location) for a ground for the football club."
>>>> Former Nuneaton Boro fan <<<<
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Re: And and
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i dont profess to being a wise know all old owl. with all the answers....if thats the correct terminology
but as you point out LW does appear to tick a lot of the boxes
maybe the powers that be think differently. ????? again pass.
from what little i know about the present set up, im sure every avenue will be explored.
if we ever get back to semi-pro league football in our own stadium it will be a remarkable achievement for sure
i wish all involved the very best of luck.
Edited by Joe at 14:36:59 on 15th December 2025
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Re: And and
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Unless the owner of LW has a complete personality change. No chance, he hates football.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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Re: And and
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Stuart Eliot even said it was pointless even thinking about going back to Liberty Way, the landlord was not interested in any deals or negotiations with the football club not even with the new club. Maybe things will change if the Nuns begin struggle further and then maybe themselves decide if they can remain on the main pitch at liberty way, then the landlords maybe prepared to talk. However interesting questions if the landlord puts Liberty Way up for sale, what do NTFC do? do we consider getting back to Nuneaton sooner and look to redevelop that which will the club further league pyramid or do we back go back their part of five to six year plan whilst a brand new stadium at vale view is built, then once Vale View is built, Liberty Way could either be sold off back to the Nuns or keep it as a training venue or future home for either a ladies team or youth team.
Some fans might say they'd sooner stay at Bedworth Utd until Vale View is completed, but we don't know how long Vale View will take? The groundshare is only agreed three more years, we may climb the league pyramid quicker than expected and be told The Oval doesn't meet ground grading at that level.
I am confident this board are lot more realistic and sensible, every decision that's been made has been successful. There good in terms of being honest and nothing unlike the whole club is being swept under the carpet, where as we know was always a problem at the old club numerous times.
#BoroFanof50years#
Edited by StockingfordBrew at 20:02:56 on 15th December 2025
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Re: And and
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I am not sure the Oval would pass to stage above step 4( next league up). Segregation would be a problem with only 1 set of turnstiles. The set in the park no longer used. Would doubt if the would now be in a fit state to use.
Just how I see things but I could be wrong.
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Re: And and
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IMO, it is very important that the Board of NTFC consider the technical aspects of complying with the FA's potential future ground-grading requirements at the Oval, in the short-term (the next 5 years), if they haven't already done so?
The Oval currently has a ground-grading requirement/certificate for Level 8/Step 4, although it appears that Bedworth United are currently struggling to maintain their status at that level.
It is possible that the Greenbacks could drop to Level 9/Step 5 next season.
It is also possible that the Town could be promoted to Step 8/Level 4 next season, so the status & respective roles of both Clubs at the Oval could reverse.
Ifs, buts & maybe's I know!?
So, it could be incumbent upon NTFC to pursue & maintain the current Level 8/Step 4 ground-grading, maybe sooner rather than later.
Further promotion by either or both Clubs to Level 7/Step 3 will need a further FA ground-grading inspection to be carried out & segregation to be put in place.
The FA's ground-grading requirements specify the requirements for segregation.
I am sure that could potentially require additional work to be undertaken at the Oval.
Who will pay for that work?
IMO, spectator access from the Miners Welfare Park entrance could be restored, which would satisfy the segregation access requirements to the Stadium.
To apply for a Football Foundation grant will require confirmation that a minimum 10-year lease with NBBC is in place, which again IMO will be in the immediate best interests of both Clubs.
It is not just about the Town pursuing a satisfactory Planning Permission for Vale View.
Ian Cook has already stated that NTFC will not be in a position to commence construction work at Vale View until the end of 2028, all being well.
That means the Town will likely be playing at the Oval for at least 5 years.
Which takes them back to the question of lease arrangements?
Just my thoughts!
I hope this has proved helpful?
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Re: And and
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Take one step at a time. Wouldn’t be hard to replace turnstiles/ there may be some spare ones at Liberty Way.
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Re: And and
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Them upper turnstiles and area wouldn't take long to repair and the costing wouldn't be too bad, provided that may both NTFC and BUFC both split the costing, then at least both clubs get the benefit of the upper turnstile back in operation. The only problem we may face is, I'm not sure if those turnstiles were closed for a reason? Not sure if its something to do with highway stuff? same issues that Liberty Way had on Eastboro Way when we were unable to open gates near the turnstiles.
Also another problem would be lack of cover at the Oval, I think there's a rule somewhere at Step 3 or 4 you need to have three covered terraces as it stands we just have two, by the bar area and the seating stand. I was told by a Bedworth United fan there was plans many years ago to have mini stand behind the goal, but it only would happen if Bedworth's gates would be averaging 250+ each week.
#BoroFanof50years#
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Re: And and
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Could we have a fund raiser to get a covered end at the car park end ? It only needs supports and a roof to give some cover from rain and if we went in with Beduff it could be part of our legacy when we eventually leave .
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Re: And and
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One thing to consider is when we face Atherstone in April I believe, we obviously seen what happened there post match. Of course same to happen again inside the ground let alone outside the ground wouldn't be good, under the circumstances that game would need to be segregated, especially if there something at stake for both clubs. Be interesting to know if there's plans in place for that game.
#BoroFanof50years#
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Re: And and
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There are a number of key points to consider technically about the Oval.
The FA's ground-grading requirements at Level 8/Step 4 require covered accommodation to be provided for 300 spectators, of which the minimum seating provision is 150 seats.
This covered accommodation should be provided in a minimum of 2 covered stands.
The FA's ground-grading requirements at Level 7/Step 3 require covered accommodation to be provided for 500 spectators, of which the minimum seating provision is 250 seats.
This covered accommodation should be provided in a minimum of 2 covered stands.
Segregation is required at Level 7/Step 3, which requires adequate access to the Stadium, refeshments facilities & toilet facilities to be provided for Away supporters.
Clearly, you have to work with the existing layout & spectator provision at the Oval & try to improve the spectator facilities at minimum cost.
The Oval currently has a ground-grading for Level 8/Step 4 & meets the spectator requirements at that level.
The problems will arise if either or both Clubs are promoted to Level 7/Step 3.
Edited by VoR at 17:34:35 on 19th December 2025
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Re: And and
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yes that is true, there were plans in place for this to happen, also it was suggested for covered accomodation to run from the club down to the baths end, every thing depended on increased attendances tho
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Re: And and
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The biggest problem with the Oval is that it is in Bedworth
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Some of us have no problem with that
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At all. The George Eliot Hospital Radio studios are also now in Bedduff. Nuneaton could not house them.
Over the centuries most of my family have lived there and/or Nuneaton.
It's a different town, is all. Different size. Different shape.
Speaking personally I cannot fault their hospitality. Not sure Atherstone, Leamington, The Lutterworths or Tamworth (for example) could have matched that.
Edited by Unnamed Sauce at 09:20:34 on 18th December 2025
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Re: Some of us have no problem with that
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You totally, utterly and completely missed my point.
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I totally did
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Thanks for the compliment.
Must be stupid. It's in my DNA.
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Re: Some of us have no problem with that
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Ok I will I will put it another way, it is not Nuneaton
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Re: Some of us have no problem with that
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I agree. Everyone I have en̈counted at our 'home' games seem to go out of their way to make us welcome. The bar staff are friendly and efficient as are the ladies in the refresment huts. I don't believe we would have been as well recieved anywhere else local. Bedworth have backed the club in our hour of need far beyond what I would have expected given our past rivalries. I, like yourself, am quite happy to enjoy their hospitality for as long as need be.
Count your blessings!
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Re: And and
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The problems will arise if either or both Clubs gain promotion to Level 7/Step 3, where segregation will demand separate facilities for Away fans.
So there is enough time to plan for that eventuality & agree how & who is going to pay for any possible additional works.
IMO, the sooner that is resolved the better.
Forward planning!
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Re: And and
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good post imo.
i just dont have the depth of knowledge to argue any of the above.
or indeed have any of the facts to hand
thus as for the clubs future ? anyone who knows how and where it will all end is way above my league
if you'll excuse the pun.
nuff said ; back under my stone.
UTB
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Re: And and
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As I said before - if we return to Liberty Way we want access and the land by the turnstiles and the landlord to build us changing rooms, bars etc.
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Re: And and
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Liberty way isn’t happening get this out of your heads what is the point of all this nonsense when we have already got a lease for potential new ground 🤬
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Re: Good luck n/t
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"And here's to you Mr Robinson",
"Jimmy and Co have left and gone away".
"Hey, Hey Hey",
"Hey, Hey Hey".....
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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Well said. I personally wish relations between the two clubs had been a lot better. Neither club has come out of any agreement that they had when the football club acquired the site better off than they were before such an aggeement was signed.
The football club is no longer in existence and has once again had to start again abet, without a home in the town.
Gloating at the current predicament of the rugby club, form wise at least, is insensitive to fellow sports fans. Yes they have dropped a league or two in recent times but certainly not as far as the football club has.
I would like both clubs to go on to better times and have a peaceful co-existence for the sake of sport in the town.
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I must be unique then
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I took a fair bit of stick from "fellow sports fans" of the egg chasing fraternity who could not hide their glee at Boro's demise. Which, I remind all , had nothing to do with the corporate "we." Ordinary, standard, bread and butter spectators, oval or round ball code (or both) had nothing to do with this.
I (and many others) have never done any harm to any of the sports clubs representing the town. The damage was done (on both sides) by "businessmen" who rarely seem to have held a grip on what "management" and "business" actually require before they can function effectively.
I can only applaud your final sentence SB:
" I would like both clubs to go on to better times and have a peaceful co-existence for the sake of sport in the town."
Amen. Yep: me too. Absolutely .And-regardless of the past, I would be prepared to forgive if it meant forward movement. However: I cannot ever forget how certain individuals have damaged both clubs.
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Re: We mustn't gloat
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my take on the situation is quite a simple one
just look back on the events of the sale of MP.
the whole episode was a disgrace imo.
im trying to be diplomatic here btw.
cannot and wont comment further.
you have to make your own minds up.
Edited by Joe at 13:57:00 on 14th December 2025
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Re: The Nuns
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Not really a rugger fan, but used to have a passing interest in how the Nuns were doing over the years. At one time they held their own in National Lge, but they have dropped considerably in recent years?
When driving thru Weddington a while back I was staggered at the number of cars parked around the Old Eds ground, the club being as well supported as the Nuns and have wealthy ex KEGS benefactors I would suggest
Anyway back on track I still cannot believe that if the Nuns are struggling and LW is a white elephant, then surely tentative feelers could have been put out , a bit like peace talks
I understand people have strong feelings about this, so feel free to sound off.
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Re: The Nuns
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Sensible suggestion but think things have moved on.
LW v different these days as all the FC buildings have been removed. It’s not a white elephant for Nuns as it’s generating significant income for them. The pitch they were playing on before was so far away it was bizarre. It’s also costing them next to nothing.
Their problems on the pitch aren’t related to LW. They were taken over by the junior section for three years and made a virtue of providing their own players. It was a disastrous experiment. This hasn’t worked and along with poor recruitment last summer and a large number of injuries means they can’t compete. Its poor but it is what it is.
In an ideal world maybe football and rugby could share facilities but I think memories of what Ian Neale did will last a long time. Even Smurthwaite acknowledged that in the end!
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I could handle it
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No offence intended.
Seems like a logical solution but what do I know?
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Re: The Nuns
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I believe they have lost their best players to Hinckley, who are paying their players a decent wage.
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Re: The Nuns
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Heard through the grapevine that , because of financial constraints, the ground staff at Robinson's Folly have had to be released. A more economical solution has been sourced by employing a Mr William Caprine and his crew to keep the grass down to a playable length..... Baaa.....
Edited by Olim Discipulum at 08:38:41 on 11th December 2025
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Re: The Nuns
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That should also help to fertilise the pitch.
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Re: The Nuns
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I should think that it was well fertilised by what was produced during our last managers reign.
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Re: The Nuns
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"We're all having party when the Nuns go bust"
#BoroFanof50years#
Edited by StockingfordBrew at 12:46:44 on 10th December 2025
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Re: The Nuns
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You might have a bit of a wait. There’s been one rugby club since 1879. By my reckoning there have been at least six football clubs!
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