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Busy Summer ?
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This set of players have been brilliant for us last two seasons but most have probably reached their limit . Some won't be good enough to make the step up , a large number are too old . Along with most fans i've spoken to i'd take a season of consolidation but just to achieve that we probably need a major rebuild . If we try and go up with the current side with a bit of fiddling around we will probably be facing a return to the UCL next summer and that will be a hard sell to even the most realistic of fans . It will be interesting to see what the managers change and the friendlies are less than two months away .
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sounds to me you have genuine concerns for next season. ???
lets hope the management team have the necessary backing.
also and lets be totally blunt here remember the management team have also been promoted twice.
we all have our limitations whatever we're involved in.
hence i think the terminology is watch this space.
i was once chatting to a football league manager who was having a purple patch
he said " im living on a knife edge..im ONE defeat from the sack "........... i laughed
he wasnt far wrong.
its a results industry ; FULL STOP there are no prisoners.
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If i felt we could go up and survive with our current squad i'd say don't change much and let's take a season building , but without a bit of a rebuild i think we will be looking at relegation next season . We have far too many players who are 30+ and i feel it's really shown in the last couple of months of the season . I'm not obsessed with winning the league but i also don't want us back in the UCL next summer .
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I dont think we would be relegated
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Personally I don't think a major rebuild is needed. Certainly the centre of defence needs changing. This was becoming more, and more, obvious towards the end of last season. I think the budget restraints will limit what the management will be able to do. We do need to be competitive though , as a few fans will turn their backs if we are only making up the numbers and not showing any sort of challenge. We will see.
Edited by Stockingford Blue at 19:28:28 on 11th May 2026
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Major maybe not ... but a mini rebuild is on the cards
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I';d only keep Bache , Thomas , Jones , Sawyers & Jardine .
I'd add Carsley but only if he's going to be fully committed
I would also give Somel & Harrison a chance to prove their good enough if their prepared to not be regulars .
Thats between 5 & 8 players making what is widely regarded as one of the biggest steps in the pyramid 5 to 4 .
That would mean at least 10 new signings would be needed minimum
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Why is it one of the biggest steps in the pyramid?
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Guidance online.
While Step 5 consists of Regional Leagues, Step 4 is the lowest tier of the 'Trident' Leagues (Northern, Southern & Isthmian).
The pace of the game is much faster & training demands are increased.
There are more experienced players with greater technical ability at Step 4.
The teams are more consistent when compared to the inconsistency of teams at Step 5 & mistakes are more likely to be punished.
AA is correct in saying it is a bigger step up from Level 5 to Level 4.
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The increased training demands could be a factor when trying to sign new players?
Edited by VoR at 09:13:49 on 12th May 2026
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I dont think Carsley will commit next season. 10 players maybe not... 5 or 6 I think
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Agreed I think 8 new younger fitter additions will work wonders plus like the forum have said VOR will we see ur support next season or stuck to your keyboard me for one will be there home and away đ”âȘïž when I can #UTT
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I'm looking forward to there being 'North Midlands' games- plenty around Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire.
Hoping for 10-12 games rather than 4. Far from regular, but much more able to 'get into it'
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Give the management duo 12 league games to prove themselves at the level.
If the wheels have come off after 6 games get rid.
Also, Town are a poor Cup side, so if they crash out of the FA Cup & FA Trophy in the early rounds, that would not be helpful financially!
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a) 12 games is ridiculous
b) 6 games is actually mental
c) who is paying their contracts off if/when we stupidly and disrespectfully put 'get rid'?
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We should have learnt to ignore his posts. Most of what he posts seems to be to get some sort of reaction , which then gives him a platform to spout off about how the club should be run ,and how they should spend their money.
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Donât agree. After their success they can have all the time they want. They know who they want to keep and probably have a good idea who they want to sign. Do you?
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They've signed players already ... Just no announcement yet
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Do you know for definite and where are they from ?
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Well Tony Breeden, Adam Walker and Louis Moult all been released by their clubs đ€Łđ€Ł
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It could be that they have verbal agreements for players, but cannot announce anything unlil official.
Edited by Stockingford Blue at 18:26:15 on 12th May 2026
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Your usual nonsense VOR
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Sorry but who are you to judge , youâre contribution is neither supportive or financial
Back to back league wins deserve the backing of the board and the fanbase of which you are neither
Continuity of staff is a major factor in our success and an understanding of what the board are asking of them .
Based on your logic Bedworth would of got rid of their management when they were rock bottom after 10 games and nearly 12 points adrift
So have some conviction of the choice of management, thatâs what we do ⊠back them why would we not
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Absolutely this ^^^^^^^
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Well put. His only contribution is to advise the club on how and what they should be spending money on.
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Quite frankly thatâs where the club has made its past mistakes âŠ
Also a bit of sensible consolidation is required , again this where we have suffered past failures
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Absolutely, mid table finish would be perfectly fine, we arent going to keep wining leagues every year a period of consolidation is not a problem
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Otherwise Manchester City would be getting worried.
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Leeds had that attitude with Brian Clough. Where did that get them?
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dont agree far too soon to judge them.
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You can't stand on sentiment Joe.
If they aim to consolidate in mid-table they will end up in a relegation battle in the bottom six.
To finish in mid-table they need to aim for the play-offs.
To finish in the play-offs they need to aim to win the league.
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Will you be attending to help us assess the progress of the squad, VoR?
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This
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No. He will be at The Butts. Following Coventry RFC. As he always does.
Wonder if he goes on their Forum with great big slabs of advice for everyone from the Board to the toilet cleaner?
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Er what u think Greg ?
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each to their own
if were embroiled in a relegation fight..... then yes
most promoted clubs give the management half a season
B4 taking any action.
especially with this clubs record ie. Boom or Bust.
having said that relegation at this level would be a bitter pill to swallow.
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The Management Team
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Have far less limitations than most of the previous sh*tshower(s) over the last decade. Also have the survival and improvement of our club as their prime motivator.
( How do I know? Talking to them).
I doubt our promotion(s) will creep on them. And I think they might actually pay the bills, too.
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Football management at all levels is a lottery. Winning a league or cup does not make you immune to the sack. The Boro' managers these last two seasons have done exceptionally well in gaining two league titles, beyond most supporters expectations, but will that save them if we struggle next season; I think not.
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We wonât struggle next season
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I like your confidence. Our form towards the end of last season does not bode well when stepping into a higher league. Letting a twenty point lead slip away lead to a desperate scramble to get over the finishing line.
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That 20 point lead is a bit of a myth. The teams below had games in hand, which made it look bigger than it really was.
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Yes I know, but we had the points , whereas the chasing teams had still got to play for theirs. That was a big advantage that we had.
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absolutely this.
BTW im not attempting to undermine anyone's achievements.
just saying it like it is, there is absolutely no attempt to look smart or undermine people
if anyone questions those sentiments
one question.... how many clubs change their manager(s) in a season ? ? ?
let alone 3 seasons.???????
even at the very top a few iffy results and the knives are out.
and btw im not talking amateur stuff here.
the other end of the stick
i recall that Lincoln once had the one manager for something like
eleven to fourteen yrs in the old 2nd division ?????
the championship in new money
could you see that these days
WOW !!!! Bill Anderson manager 1947-1965
18 yrs 762 games
including the great escape from relegation 57/8
Edited by Joe at 16:53:31 on 11th May 2026
Edited by Joe at 18:39:05 on 11th May 2026
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John Rudge.
16 years at Port Vale.
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The now disgraced Dario Gradi was manager at Crewe for 24 years (1983 to 2007), then came back as caretaker in 2008 then again from 2009 to 2011.
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Hoofball
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Has been solidly behind the results downturn towards the end of the season.
I don't know whose idea it was but it did not work and I hope we jettison it asap.
Hoofball played up to a lad of Jardine's stature is plain daft.
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Not only that. It is not a good watch.
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Guidance online.
High tempo (Tiki-Taka Barcelona style) passing game, using the full width of the pitch, switching play quickly & fast transitions, is the best type of football to be played on a 3G pitch.
This is because the bounce is true & can be relied upon.
Also, defend in a mid to low block, to prevent the ball being played over the defence & to counter fast attackers.
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If only football was played online.
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I think we will need our own ground before we start moving to higher levels.
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Not talking about moving up to an higher level just surviving at the level we're now at next season .
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I don't think you can set that as a parameter, that prospect is at least 4 years away, at best.
The Town Board should (IMO) be considering what improvements (if any) need to be made to the Oval to guarantee SLPC football can be played there, given that segregation is required at Level 7/Step 3 & who will pay for the work?
To settle for consolidation at Level 8/Step 4 could only (IMO) increase the danger of relegation & would be the wrong mindset to adopt from the outset.
Just my thoughts!
Edited by VoR at 10:01:31 on 10th May 2026
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Not sure wholesale changes are needed, we need to improve central defence and midfield and also need another goalscorer to support jardine, we maybe need 5-6 new additions
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We will only know if wholesale changes are needed once the season is under way. But it is also right and sensible to recruit where we can, as we step up another level.
Unlike (it seems) some other posters, I am fairly impressed with what Acco Doddsy and the Management/Board have achieved so far. They seem far from stupid to me. Everyone makes mistakes on a learning curve but given the nonsense we had to put up with in the days approaching the final demise, the last two seasons have had far more pluses than minuses.
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I think that we all share the sentiment that what the management have given us these last two seasons is beyond expectations. The football towards the end of the season though , was not good, and it was only the fact that we had a twenty point advantage,that we got over the line. I share the view of many others on the forum that changes need to be made , especially in central defence. Overall the team did well as we were top scorers in the league, lost the least games, and obviously as league winners, got the most points. I believe , other than a new look defence, we should be good enough to hold our own next season..... Not if we play hoof ball though!
Edited by Stockingford Blue at 13:51:36 on 10th May 2026
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I think most people know 5/6 players are needed.... the bench isn't strong enough..... so we might see 7 or 8
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It's Evolution
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I agree 100% with your opening lines. And making changes does not imply criticism of anyone. It's a natural progression in a sport where physical capability is never a constant. At every level, waged or unwaged, Junior school kids to World Cup qualifiers, if performances (and so results) start to waver, adjustments have to be made. That's the nature of team sport.
Having already purchased x2 Season tickets for the new season I'm a little wary of writing off any season before it starts. It's bad psychology to put low expectations into peoples' minds before an event. Realism yes. Fair enough. But if anyone had told me, first time at The Oval that we would go on to win two successive promotions I would have laughed out loud. So let's wait and see.
Maybe we will struggle. Maybe( for a third time running) we may not. Maybe it will be fifty fifty. We don't know really, do we? What we HAVE got to do is get into players minds (current or incoming), what the club means to us, how far they've come since resurrection and how over 1,000 of our fans fans travelled to see them away at The Butts-even at this level.
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One of our main problems is that some think that because of our past history ,and the level of support we get ,we are still a big club playing at a lower level. We are nothing like the club that was managed by the likes of Phillips, Carr, or Coleman. Players will not be attracted to us just because they can play in front of a slightly bigger crowd. The club is still in its infancy , and although we have hit the ground runÌning ,the race we are in is not a sprint but a marathon. Many will accept the status quo, and mid table security, but others will not, so attendences will deminish meaning we will be less able to find the higher wages that the better players we need will demand.
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It's not just about the size of the crowd, LH has highlighted the financial problem of not having any matchday bar & food takings, I think he said that is costing Town ÂŁ90k a season?
If performances & league position are mediocre & quite rightly (as you say) attendances drop, that will impact not only on the squad budget but also on the contributions to the 'Back to Nuneaton Fund'.
So, further progress on the field has to be a given.
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I think we are a big club playing at this level, attendances back that up compared to other clubs.....
Dosnt mean I exspect promotion every season back to the promised land, but I do exspect a team that can challenge with ideas, grit and determination..... I haven't seen that lately
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I don't expect promotion every season.
So it was a pleasant surprise to watch two successive ones. I took nothing for granted. Nothing.
And when I walked out of the CBS after our cup exit there-I genuinely did not expect to see a Boro team play anywhere again. So that was a nice bonus too.
Like you my expectations are a team that puts in 90 minutes to the very best of their ability. I only coached at Junior level-but that was always always my expectation. Those who did not deliver it did not play.
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Attendences are a result of success on the pitch. We topped the table for most of last season, hence our 600 average. Do you really believe we will attract that many with a team treading water mid table?
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I believe the budget was based upon an average of 400.
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It most likely was. That was a figure which they felt was most likely achievable. To budget for a higher figure would have been folly . You cannot set a budget based on what you would like income to be but ,on what it is likely to be, given our level of football.
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No .... you will see less home fans when we start losing but more away fans the higher we go..... horses for courses
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I think you have to look at the Board's role in that situation.
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And remember if Racing Club Warwick can get promoted we shouldnât be far off.
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Tinpot club mentality again. We should be looking up to the likes of Warwick, not down our noses at them.
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And Racing Clubâs attendances and sponsorship were? I wasnât looking down at them I was saying we should be able to compete with them. I also said earlier our progress will depend upon when we have our own ground. The ground is the priority not promotion.
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I have no idea what Racing Clubs attendances or sponcership were last season. The fact is they achieved promotion from the league that we have not been tested in yet. Just being Nuneaton does not mean we can emulate them. As for getting a new ground . I agree it is a priority. But it should not be at the expence of accepting mediocrity.
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Racing Club Warwickâs average attendance was 290 last season
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They have done very well then to achieve promotion on those numbers. Of course thay could, and most likely do, have other income streams. However it has been achieved _...well done to them.
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Ian Cook has stated that optimistically Town will be looking to play in their new Stadium at Vale View in 2030.
That is a very sensible comment.
I think it is likely to be later than that, sometime in the early 2030's?
The acid test for the new Stadium will be when it has to go to the NBBC Planning Committee for approval by the Councillors.
Even if NBBC Planners recommend that a satisfactory Planning Permission is granted, that should not be taken as a given.
So IMO, it's best that the Town get on with the business of progressing on the field & let the off-field stuff take its natural course.
Don't mix the two objectives, it will only cause confusion!
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I think one or two of the usual suspects are being mischievous about what I said about attendances. I have not suggested anywhere that we are a "bigger club" than any other at our level. Frankly, our status when compared to other clubs in our league(s) is of no interest to me.
What I was suggesting is that SOME players prefer playing for a supportive coaching staff and an appreciative crowd.
What do I base that on?
Talking to them.
The only reason I raised it was because if you are any good as a Non League semi pro you want to better yourself. I am not demeaning, tin potting or belittling any other local club by suggesting that playing at The Oval (or in Nuneaton) (fingers crossed?) for a club ours is for some, a more appealing prospect than playing in front of a rope and a park bench on a common somewhere.
So there.
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Clearly you have never dealt with NBBC Planning Department.
Town have a Stadium to play at, the Oval & it is likely to remain their home for some years to come, the priority now is to make sure it meets the FA's Ground-grading standards for the SLPC at Level 7/Step 3.
Then look to continue to progress on the field, with the new Stadium at Vale View ticking over in the background.
You need to remember that there is no certainty that Vale View will receive a satisfactory Planning Permission, or that the site even proves to be economically viable.
A decision on the commercial viability of the site can be made once the site investigation work is complete.
IMO, you are taking a very simplistic view at the moment.
Edited by VoR at 13:22:55 on 10th May 2026
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Although I don't take issue with your supposition that consolidation at The Oval is currently our only option, I suspect that many posters have dealt with NBBC planning department. And probably with many other councils too.
Calling anyone simplistic on here is unhelpful, patronising and condescending. And far, far too simplistic for words.
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My comment stands!
I repeat, the priority at the moment is to ensure that the Oval has a satisfactory ground-grading to stage Level 7/Step 3 football, with permanent segregation/facilities in place, when needed.
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How do you know Bedworth has not got that already?
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According to Google, the Oval has an FA ground-grading of Grade H, suitable for Level 8/Step 4.
It does not have permanent segregation.
If segregation is required for any game, then temporary measures need to be put in place, including possibly a Police presence, to ensure spectator safety.
These additional requirements would be an exceptional cost to be borne by NTFC.
Bedworth United could confirm these facts, upon request.
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There was segregation for the Atherstone game. So whereâs the problem?
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I assume that was temporary segregation & those measures would have been at an exceptional/additional cost to NTFC?
LH could confirm that fact/cost?
Edit:
Where the Police are concerned, they have a public duty to ensure spectator safety outside the Oval (at no extra cost) but any Police presence inside the Oval would need to be paid for by NTFC.
This is an issue at major sporting venues (eg Premier League Stadiums), that's why Clubs elect to train/employ their own security staff/stewards, to keep their Policing costs to a minimum.
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Re: A classic post
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Temporary or not, segregation was in place for the Adders game. What that cost is no concern of yours , or anyone else but the club. I assume , from your posts , given that we will be at the Oval for the forseable future you would like the club to spend money on upgrades to to the ground? When the club agreed a groundshare with Bedworth ,I am sure they realised that playing there would only take us so far up the pyramid. We have, perhaps ,one more promotion left before we reach that level. It would not be in the club's interest to invest in improvements to the Oval when the groundshare was only meant to be a temporary measure. If the old club had taken your advice ,Liberty Way would have had a floodlight upgrade and a 1000 seat stand standing idle.
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Town are now playing at Level 8/Step 4.
The Oval has an FA ground-grading for Grade H, suitable for playing at Level 8/Step 4.
There is no permanent segregation/away supporters facilities in place at the moment.
Playing at Level 7/Step 3 (SLPC) requires permanent segregation/away supporters facilities to be in place.
It would be sensible now that both Town & the Greenbacks are playing at Level 8/Step 4, if both Clubs decided to apply to the FA for a Stadium inspection for Level 7/Step 3 (if that is not already underway?).
The FA Inspector will recommend any work that may be necessary to upgrade the Oval to play Level 7/Step 3 standard football.
The two Clubs & NBBC can take it from there & agree amongst themselves how the work (if any) will be paid for?
If either/both Clubs are successful in gaining promotion to Level 7/Step 3, there will be a dispensation in place until 31st March in the following season to complete any work that may be necessary.
Remember the mess Peterborough Sports got themselves into when they gained promotion to the National League North?
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Re: A classic post
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Or they could do that when it looks like they will be promoted
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You need to remember that agreement needs to be made on who will pay for the work.
The work could need Planning Permission and/or Building Regulations approval.
It also needs the approval for the works to be carried out by NBBC, the Stadium owners.
This all takes time!
IMO, an FA inspection needs to be carried out as soon as possible to find out the facts.
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Re: A classic post
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Stop assuming the people that run the respective clubs do not know what they are doing. If they did'nt they could easily use Google, like you do , to get the answers they need?
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Re: A classic post
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Nobody should need to make assumptions, the Club should keep the supporters informed!
Yes, I have a suspicion that Level 7/Step 3 is as high as Town can go at the Oval because of the new pitch specification?
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Re: A classic post
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Most of us are fully aware of the situation regarding the Oval and do not need a constant reminder.
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That may be problematic as it's not our ground - we are just lodgers. It would be a bit like you letting a bedroom out to a lodger then them insisting you make the windows bigger and improve the wifi. If either Beduff (as main tenants) or the council (as owners) don't want us to do it, then we can't.
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Agree with that Greg. As tenants at a previous location we built stands,a social club and even installed floodlights and more. That turned out well if I recall correctly.
Little by little.
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i am fairly sure the Greenbacks would not object
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