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New ground?

By Armchair vulture (Armchair Observer)31/5 09:41Sun May 31 09:41:24 2026

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How much will Vale view cost?
Here is Workingtons new ground.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/39243332/nostalgic-stadium-demolished-16-m-upgrade-double-capacity/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=dreamteamfacebook&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawSI0rpleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80MDk5NjI2MjMwODU2MDkAAR416bSkVNEklJv9_zuLbsm3pk-JYwF8z5oJmvtPQf0-xniZXc9Gv7ejvoOwgg_aem_YWdncwAMAHAkuSY6Zvj0vzrewVSx&brid=YWdncwHIvvC0p9e6hGD9gV1CTfye#Echobox=1779999018

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Re: New ground?

By VoR31/5 10:31Sun May 31 10:31:36 2026In response to New ground? Top of thread

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A realistic target budget cost should be set at £5,000,000 excluding exceptional costs brought about by potential underlying abnormal ground conditions.

The exceptional costs of any site remediation & piling required due to mineworkings & Vale View being a former (possibly uncontrolled) landfill site should, IMO, be subject to further discussion with NBBC.

I believe it would be totally unfair on NTFC CIC Ltd to expect them to stand the cost of these additional works, given NBBC own the land, unless a deal can be made to give the site to the football club, free of charge, as part of the negotiations.

Just my thoughts!

Edit:

More information on the underlying ground conditions will be forthcoming once BEK have completed their initial site investigation.

Edited by VoR at 10:35:17 on 31st May 2026

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Re: New ground?

By Vernon Slain2/6 09:09Tue Jun 2 09:09:10 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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This is my biggest concern about Vale View. A recommended site from the Council,their property,for the playing of sport should not be subject to the costs being borne by an applicant in my opinion. The site is either fit or not for sport to be played or it cannot be deemed as suitable for that use. Just my thoughts.

Little by little.

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Re: New ground?

By VoR2/6 09:12Tue Jun 2 09:12:03 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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I agree.

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Re: New ground?

By Armchair vulture (Armchair Observer)1/6 21:09Mon Jun 1 21:09:32 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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I think you’re something in the mark with 5 million which will get you a basic ground - my question is -
How the hell are town going to pay even this sum?
Where will they het the money from?
I think they’ll be at Beduth for many years to come.
Unless there’s a helicopter drop of cash.
Time will tell.

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Re: New ground?

By s. tone ragma7 (stone ragma)1/6 22:18Mon Jun 1 22:18:33 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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You apply for grants

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Re: New ground?

By VoR1/6 21:14Mon Jun 1 21:14:26 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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They will need to consider changing how the Club is set up at some point.

As NTFC CIC Ltd (by Guarantee) they will find it difficult to raise equity.

Also, CIC's are heavily regulated.

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Re: New ground?

By Boropod (BoroughPod)1/6 21:22Mon Jun 1 21:22:33 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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No we wont!

Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'

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Re: New ground?

By VoR1/6 21:49Mon Jun 1 21:49:55 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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If NBBC were to give Vale View to NTFC or sell the land to them for a nominal sum (assuming there are exceptional costs to be met for abnormal ground conditions) then the Club would have a valuable asset to use to pursue a Bank loan.

Otherwise, they will be largely reliant on obtaining Grants, which as a non-profit making social organisation could be looked upon favourably.

FA Grants come with a lot of Conditions.

They could consider a Membership Scheme, with a joining fee & an annual subscription.

They could also rely on donations.

Just my thoughts!

Edited by VoR at 21:51:18 on 1st June 2026

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Re: New ground?

By wiltstone31/5 11:22Sun May 31 11:22:22 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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I'm a Maidstone fan - we built a step 4 ground while in the ithsmian league south east in 2012 and later upgraded it extensively to national league standard

It cost us £2.8 million, around £4,134,519 in todays money, although doubtless the costs of construction may have fluctuated in that time. a substantial part of that money was spent on the 3g pitch, but that has paid for itself via renting it out. Funding was sourced partly through our owners (who are not rich in any way as we have found out the past couple of seasons) but also through grants and a name sponsorship from the main contractors. It cost us just under the original construction cost to upgrade to national league standard.

It was constructed in a slightly tricky area next to a river, with difficult footprint - geologically this may have resulted in a similar cost to your planned area

We ended up with a genuinely decent ground which many regard as better than our original!

Pictured is the ground as it was when it was built in 2012 compared to today. note the grey building containing offices, changing rooms, a bar and academy classrooms.


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Re: New ground?

By almost average 22/6 06:31Tue Jun 2 06:31:12 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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That would be lovely but realistically is well beyond what we will be looking at initially .
Runcorns new ground is probably a lot nearer to what we will be looking at . It's a lot more basic but does the job and would still cost millions .

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Re: New ground?

By VoR31/5 11:36Sun May 31 11:36:01 2026In response to Re: New ground? Top of thread

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Thanks for the interest Wiltstone & providing the information & photos.

I notice you opted for a 3-sided Stadium design, which is permissible.

I assume Maidstone have a FIFA Quality PRO standard 3G pitch, suitable for playing in the National Leagues.

The potential cost problem at the Vale View site is its previous useages, which may or may not prove cost prohibitive.

As an aside, the Bank of England have a calculator to update previous years costs to the current date, it might be worth checking your figures using that calculator.

I think £5,000,000 is a useful starting figure, which should provide a good Stadium at a commercially viable cost.

Interesting times in Nuneaton with many challenges ahead!

Edited by VoR at 11:36:55 on 31st May 2026

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