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Oklahoma United FC are a semi-professional football team that play in the NPSL.
They currently play at the 12,000-seater Chad Richison Stadium on campus at the University of Central Oklahoma, in Edmond.
They are having a new 10,000-seater Stadium built in the Bricktown district, costing 121 million US dollars, which should open in January 2028.
The new Stadium will be owned by the City of Oklahoma.
It will be called the Oklahoma City Stadium & will also be known as the MAPS 4 Multi-purpose Stadium.
League edit:
Oklahoma United joined The League for Clubs (TLfC) in 2026, playing in the Red River Conference.
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Been on the cards now for sometime. Hope it works out for them,
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Really! I hope it goes badly wrong.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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If it is great for the club or a complete disaster, won’t affect Boro in any way. I suspect sour grapes might be an issue for Boropod.
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Neither of you fuckwits know the meaning of 'sour grapes'
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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I think um going to need a bigger boat ⛵ swearing on a forum tut tut
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Bigger brain would help you.
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What a child threw your toys out of the pram as to swear tut tut
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Really! toys out of pram, is that the best insult you can manage, useless cunt!
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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You are the most arrogant twat I have known I would rather talk to a can of corned beef and shit in my hands and clap than talk to a little boy like you I bet you will be glad when school starts again.
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If you want to shit in your own hands please feel free. We've all done it.
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Can you please use some sort of punctuation. Ta 'pal' x
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Is Tamworth’s future really worth arguing about Boropod and Stockingford Lad?
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No it is not, you are right we should stick together and get this great club where it should be.
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Dont want to interrupt.
But we are where we should be.
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I know we are where we are at the moment, I meant to where we were in conference hopefully,just getting a bit carried away.
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And be like you,you mean. No thanks. I will keep my small brain
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Well yes as it wasn't aimed at you anyway so keep out out of it.
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"American businessman Abdullah Ashraf is the new owner and chairman of Tamworth Football Club. The 24 year old real estate investor has bought the club through his successful US firm Dawn Group International (DGI) "
Nice plot of real estate to build on then ? 🤔
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Finally an interesting comment, instead of the inane insults . Yes it's an interesting development and their ground is prime building nt land; also much of the town, like Nuneaton, is heavily built on.
The question I ask is why Tamworth? Some of the fan base has concerns a d they feel the club needs bigger crowds to move forward.
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A lot of Villa and Birmingham fans live in Tamworth. Their supporters go there. If this takeover brings success on the field the attendances will go up.
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Unfortunately the Tamworth fans will be of no concern to the American investors. These companies exist to make a profit,; this is always at someones expense. Man utd was a fine example of this. The Glazier family bought the club on borrowed money , then saddled the club with that debt. The family then took dividends as owners , thus making huge profits from effectively making the club buy itself. I don't know if Tamworth own the Lamb but as you imply it is valuable real estate. If I was a Tamworth fan then I would have serious concerns.
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The Lamb ground is owned by the Council. The football club have a 99 year rolling lease.
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The owner has just announced in their press conference that they have started talks to buy the Lamb.
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Hope is not a plan.
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Gossip
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BLuGnJ8sq/
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Hope is not a plan.
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The Lamb will have been professionally valued as a sports ground.
The valuation could have been increased if there was a 'hope value' for a change of use to something more valuable.
That is down to the Planners.
I don't know whether the new owner has been briefed about working with local planning authorities in the UK.
I would be interested to see if the Lamb has been properly appraised for development/re-development as an EFL Stadium?
As a reminder, Leamington are now 16 years along the pathway to building their new Stadium, an impressive looking 4,000 capacity stadium, meeting the requirements of the National League.
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If that is the case then a prudent question would be, Why? It was posted yesterday that Tamworth have a rolling 99 year lease. Any investment to the Lamb would be secure in the holding of such a lease. If I was a Tamworth fan , I would be very concerned that a real estate company are proposing such a purchase.
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If you are going to spend mega money upgrading the stadium you would want to own it. You don’t spend lots of money on a rented house.
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With a 99 year rolling lease any imvestment would be safe. If the Lamb is sold then the future of the club would solely depend on the owners, thus putting Tamworth into the position we are now in.
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Coventry Rugby Club are operating on a 99-year lease basis with Coventry City Council & are happy to invest in the Stadium facilities.
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Town will be investing in their new Stadium on the basis of a 49-year lease with Nuneaton & Bedworth Borough Council, if they gain a satisfactory Planning Permission at Vale View?
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I'm surprised that any Boro fan would ask this after what happened at Liberty Way. We had a secure lease (OK, not 99 years but still secure and rolling). We built on the land. We missed rent payments and were evicted. We lost our investments.
If we had kept ownership, we would still own stands etc etc etc. It's common sense, isn't it?
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The crucial fact in our case was the none payment of the rent, thereby relinquishing the lease. Liberty Way was never owed by the club. If the Lamb is sold to the parent company of the football club then the safety net of the lease will be lost.
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LW was owned by the Club.
Once the club was liquidated Ian Neale decided to separate ground from Club.
That was the slippery slope.
The stands were always owned by the ground owner.
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And his lordship was worshipped over
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The question I would ask is whether the Lamb can be further developed/re-developed to provide a Stadium suitable to play in the EFL?
That will require a satisfactory Planning Permission.
Also, a minimum capacity of 5,000 including 1,000 seats.
A capacity upgrade to 5,000 including 2,000 seats after 3 years of continuous membership of the EFL.
A further Stadium upgrade to minimum 5,000 all-seater capacity after 4 years of continuous membership of the EFL Championship.
A minimum of 500 lux floodlighting requirement.
Tamworth's new owner is presumably aware of all of this before proclaiming EFL membership is his objective?
Likewise, the Town's Board will also be well aware of these requirements, as rivals!?
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Have you ever been to the Lamb?
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VoR, here is a little advice that you may want to take on board:
Generally, people running sports teams are experienced in the field and/or very succesful business people ***. When those thoughts run through your head, maybe you should apply the "would a successful club owner have thoguht this through and got advice if needed?" If the answer to that is "Yes", then assume that maybe they know what they're doing and refrain from posting about the steps they need to follow.
*** Yes, OK, Boro have had some that don't fall into these categories. They are the exception rather than the rule nowadays.
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You make a lot of assumptions Greg, you must be very trusting.
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Oh dear. You have, right from your very first post on here, assumed that no-one else knew how to run the club, no-one else knew the rules that club's must adhere to and no-one else had tried to represent fans to the club's board. You were not only wrong on all counts, but also came across as very pompous and condescending. That's why people reacted the way they did. Many times fans and fan groups had tried (with varying degrees of success/failure) to work with the club, many successful business people had been involved and the club itself had been through massively successful times. But still you stormed in with the master plan to solve all the problems. Now you are raising the same issues about Tamworth.
It seems you have learned nothing in these years.
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I think you should get in touch with Tamworth VOR perhaps through their fans pages.
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Safety net of the lease? I'm not sure what that means. If they own the ground, what further safety net do they need?
To make an analogy with personal circumstances, imagine that you live in a house and you want to build a granny annexe costing say £30k. Would you rather own the house before spending, or spend the cash on a house that you rent?
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When we were at Manor park and the first Boro went bust, the new club were able to play at the council owned Manor park again. Our club's circumstances changed once the council sold the ground. With Liberty way, if the club had maintained the rent payments then we would not now be homeless. Once you put the club into the hands of third party investors the very future is taken out of your hands.
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Except our contract would e finishing about now.
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Let's stop calling them investors & call them what they are, land speculators, investing in land & buildings to sell at a profit.
Tamworth's new owner has a football club in Oklahoma City.
The semi-professional club he owns, Oklahoma United, don't their own Stadium, they currently play at the University of Central Oklahoma.
They hope to move in to a new Stadium, in Bricktown, which will be owned by the City of Oklahoma.
So, why would he want to buy the Lamb?
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For exactly the reason I outlined above. If you want a granny annexe on your house, would you spend the cash on it if you only rented?
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Well, If Vale View gets the go ahead, by your reasoning, the club would be stupid to spend any money developing a suitable stadium. As you imply you don't develop something you don't own.
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Two totally different situations - can you really not see that?
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They have a multimillionaire wanting to buy The Lamb for them. Boro have to raise every penny through fundraising and matched funding. Can you really not see the difference? Really, really?
As a follow up, do you honestly believe that if I wil Euromillions on Tuesday, phone Boro and say "I want to buy you a plot of land for you to develop a stadium on land that you own", that they will reply "No thanks - we'd rather rent from the council"?
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Tamworth have been at the Lamb for eighty years. Why after all that time, with a 99 year rolling lease is it suddenly prudent to purchase the land? If the new owner is solely interested in building the club a new stadium, then then there would be no long term issues in doing so with such a lease in place. The question is why does a property developer from the USA suddenly decide that buying the land is so crucial. So no, I see no difference in the Tamworth situation than that of the Boro's.other than a third party is involved.
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Yes these are pertinent questions you raise. You only have to visit the Lamb ground to see it's potential. Not just housing and it's proximity to the train station, but its potential for other business uses , such as car dealerships, another hotel?
A Tamworth fan has said the land would be worth 1.5 mill with 30 houses on the site.
In response to VOR the big problem is that there is little suitable land in the town. Most green field sites on westrn edge are Lichfield district, and on east side it is huge warehousing.
Some locals are suggesting the athletics ground is a potential, but as some of you say it's all conjecture at the moment.
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I would say that new housing could be a good option for that site.
The price that houebuilders pay for land is based on 'net developable area', not 'gross area'.
I don't know how many acres/hectares are available at the Lamb but it would not be unreasonable to consider that two-thirds of the area would be 'net developable'.
Having been to the Lamb a number of times, £1.5 million sounds realistic, based on gaining a satisfactory Planning Permission.
With Tamworth & Lichfield combining as a Unitary Authority, the possibility of building a new Stadium on the Western side of town could be investigated.
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Tamworth's new American owner, IMO, would have a far better chance of success with the local Planners, if he proposed to sell the Lamb as development land (with an Outline Planning Permission for a change of use) & build the football club a new Stadium on the outskirts of town, if a new site was available.
He could use the funds available from the sale of the Lamb to fund/part-fund the new Stadium.
That would be more straightforward than trying to re-develop the Lamb as an EFL Stadium, which again IMO, would have Planning challenges.
Just my thoughts!
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Which is exactly why Tamworth fans should be concerned. How did it help the Boro' when Ian Neile seperated the club from the stadium?
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Yep Boro supporters were complacent at the time.
What was then supporters Direct (now FSA) wanted against splitting ground from club but I remember the consensus on here was it didn’t matter.
Neale bought the ground for £1 from the liquidators who later sponsored matches at LW!
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I'm glad that someone else can see the possibility of the same thing happening to Tamworth. I wish them well, even as a Boro' fan, and sincerely hope that the new owner has just good intentions; but I have my doubts.
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If he buys the Lamb ground from Tamworth Council then tried to develop the land for other purposes than the home of Tamworth Football Club, I would doubt be would get planning permission..
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You may be right. However, planning laws were relaxed in the last two years to enable more house building. .It seems quite common, in recent times , that if planning is refused then developers take it to review to have the refusal overturned.
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It would be possible if it was linked to building a new Stadium in the town for Tamworth FC.
If the new American owner agreed to buy the Lamb for the (elsewhere quoted) sum of £250k, he would be able to sell the land on to another developer for a significantly increased sum, if Tamworth Council granted a satisfactory Outline Planning Permission for a more valuable change of use, from a sports ground.
The frustration for all parties in such an arrangement would be finding a potentially more suitable site in Tamworth to build a new Stadium.
If Tamworth Council cannot provide such a site, all parties will be reliant upon a private landowner to offer/bring forward their land for consideration.
It can become a complex situation very quickly!
Edited by VoR at 22:34:26 on 20th June 2026
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My guess would be they will develop a new ground and sell the Lamb for development.
Whether their motives are honourable is a different matter.
The Boro history is so frustrating because it was all so predictable from the sale of Manor Park onwards. Yet everyone who warned against what was happening were told we needed to move and to stop being negative. How it turned out was completely predictable.
That’s why I welcome the transparency with the new Club. A breath of fresh air!
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Yes , our new club is like a breath of fresh air. We as fans want only the best for our club , and hope that the present owners have learnt the lessons from the past. I sincerely hope that it turns out well for Tamworth too , as I have no problem with any club doing well.
Edited by Stockingford Blue at 19:44:01 on 20th June 2026
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Tamworth Council are the controlling body in all of this & can ensure that Tamworth FC's interests in whatever is proposed in the future is protected, in proper negotiations with the club's new American owner.
Edited by VoR at 19:01:46 on 20th June 2026
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Like Manor park was protected by the covenant you mean?
Edited by Stockingford Blue at 19:03:08 on 20th June 2026
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Hmmm. I didn't see the bit where the new owner was separating the club from the stadium. Can you link to that?
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I did not say he is doing that. What I imply is that an American property developer, who by his own admission , had no previous connection with Tamworth , suddenly thinks it prudent to buy the land. Would you, if a Tamworth fan, not question his motives?
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No, we did'nt see it either until Ian Neile did it.
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Ah - so the new Tamworth owner separating club and ground is something you invented, not something he has said he will do. OK, I get it now.
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I have not said he is doing it. What I am implying is, as a property developer who had no connection with Tamworth, he has sought to purchase the land.
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My view too as it happens. And in the region of £150,000 ( I believe ) to find out the suitability.
Little by little.
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Have you read LH's Treasurer's Report for May re: Vale View?
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No I haven’t.
Little by little.
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Have a read, it's on the website.
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Just found it and am a little surprised that this hadn’t been publicised a little more earnestly,but maybe I missed it. It could appear to some that maybe the council have been pushed back a little when the initial costs were placed in the Boro’s lap. Any Stockingford local over 60 will know the history of the site.
Little by little.
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It seems this new Reform led council are not keen on Boro moving to Vale View. If we have to look for another site that will delay it further. If no where is sorted before the local council is abolished we shall have a different body of people to deal with. No knowing where that will lead to.
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To be honest I have little confidence in the Vale View site. I live in the Ford , and there does seem to be a lot of opposition to having the football club sited there. We well remember the trouble we had when the club decided to move from Manor park. We were knocked back on sites the council themselves put forward, like the jubilee. The council at the time even prevented us moving out to Bermuda, citing the fact that the site was too close to a chemical storage depot. Look at that site now.
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Suspect it’s somebody in Reform who doesn’t want the new ground in Stockingford. Hope we can keep NBBC honest on this. We need the Club in Nuneaton!
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We do. However I am at an age where I may not see us play there unless things start moving a lot quicker.
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The need for a Ground Investigation Report is crucial.
LH has previously reported that 10 boreholes will be drilled on the site.
It's not just the cost of GI works that matter, the site will need to be reinstated to playing fields, after those works have been completed.
As the Developer, Town will need to pay for all of that!
It seems unfair but it is the football club who are proposing to build a Stadium on that Council-owned land & they have to convince themselves that the site is commercially viable, to proceed any further with their Planning Application?
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Yes, I am of an age when it was still a clay pit for the Hauchchwood brick and tile. It was filled with household and industrial waste.
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I remember Stockingford Villa playing there. About 30 yards down that is.
Little by little.
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Unless he has been excited by what has happened at Wrexham & believes he can emulate their success on a much smaller scale, costing less?
He must have missed the signpost for Nuneaton!
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I think our view has been clouded by what happened to the Boro at Liberty Way.
Edited by VoR at 18:00:33 on 19th June 2026
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Yes, surely there must be a mega rich American who knows of our proud history as a famous non league team, and would like to do a Wrexham, as you say. To add to the intrigue, other rumours swirling around Tamworth include the castle being sold off by the council.
Tamworth is soon to become part of a unitary authority, along with Lichfield. Apparently it's being termed protecting Tamworth's assets before the merger.
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Are Lichfield selling off their Cathedral to protect their prize asset?
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I doubt it. It's one rule for the posh folk in Lichfield, another one for us scum bag Brummies
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You forget; we have no assets and are only playing due to a groundshare.
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Yes, the start of a very long journey of redemption.
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In that case there should be a reason Tamworth fans have every reason to be optimistic for the future. Good luck to them.
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Look at Hednesford and how much their crowds have increased with the investment there, suspect same will happen at Tamworth
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you make some interesting points for sure.
i can understand their concerns everything that glitters is not gold ( as we well know )
you have to ask the obvious question why ?
from the days of Tommy Morrow, think we all remember Tommy, local lad, ( rip )
who even worked at the Sterling Metals
they sort of hung on our shirt tails. NOT ANY MORE EH !!!!
privately we used to call them the reserves ;-)
its a watch this space situation for sure
Hmmm....... pass.
ps. dont know how many remember his older brother Hughie
played league football for Northampton and later was at Kettering ( from clouded memory )
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A great player Tom Morrow, and as I recall he never played for the Boro. Also, as my mum was friends with his wife, he got me the autographs of the Leamington team he was a member.
Also Joe did you know he had quite a fan club amongst the Tamworth teenage girl fans (according to my wife).
Apologies to younger forum members for all this memory lane stuff.
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echo your sentiments
and yes i do tend to waffle on
its just that when i read posts they sometimes get me reminiscing
apologies
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Worked with Tom at freeman +proctor and also played at Sunday side Sterling metals with him. Also Hughie was manager of camp hill when I was in the sticks for them.both nice genuine people.
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small world eh !!!
he , Tommy used to pop into the acorn for a pint with a couple of pals
i know one of them. from school days.
last time i saw him he was walking up weddington rd
i papped him as i passed.
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Another player worth remembering from the early sixties associated with both clubs is Harold Cox.
He also went on to manage Kidderminster Harriers.
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Really not very interested in Tamuff tbf.
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