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This is not declaration of intent or other wise.
Amazed how any people thought Vale View was a given because the council said “agree in principal”
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/new-nuneaton-fc-stadium-latest-34223309
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As anybody thought of the land by the Pingles Arena , that's if Gala Fields is a no no seems to be plenty of room.
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That to me is the obvious location.
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But the council haven't offered us that.
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What about asking? If they say no they are no worse off. Might agree you never know.
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Like you say," You never know. "
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More Vale View details
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This is what's basically under Vale view.
This section shows how Daw Mill pit filled the large Stanley Brothers clay pit.behind Westbury rd with spoil.
The section over Haunchwood rd at Vale View was more or less the.same in section accept the fill which was refuse and not pit spoil.
https://largeimages.bgs.ac.uk/seadragon/mra-amps.html?id=009AC03U5
Edited by Armchair Observer at 12:26:53 on 5th July 2026
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The site falls under the Mining Remediation Authority (formerly the Coal Authority) & is designated a High Risk Development Area, with possible shallow coal workings.
A Coal Mining Risk Assessment (CMRA) is required to be submitted with a Full Planning Application to NBBC.
An intrusive Ground Investigation involving drilling boreholes is required.
Ground stability needs to be considered by NBBC Planners.
Gas monitoring is also required. This refers to naturally occuring gases that get trapped in old mineworkings, that are a safety hazard, due to the various gases being colourless & odourless.
An initial development appraisal including risk scoping has already been carried out for the Vale View site.
Edited by VoR at 14:11:30 on 5th July 2026
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I was born and lived on Haunchwood Road, and remember it being filled in with household waste. I used to walk over it to see what we could find.
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Vale view in 1913
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Taken from the approximate location of Haunchwood rd.in front of the Cherry tree pub area.
Before it was filled.
https://bgs.assetbank.app/assetbank-bgs/action/viewAsset?id=16094&index=7&total=20&view=viewSearchItem
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NTFC are looking to build on that site!?
60-80ft of (possibly/probably) uncontrolled household waste fill?
It looks to me as though you are looking at 20-30m long end-bearing piles founded in the original ground at the bottom of the fill, for any of the heavy load bearing structures.
Then there is the problem of stabilising the fill to resolve.
Assuming the Engineers can address these abnormal ground problems, there will always remain the potential for settlement & equally the additional risk of differential settlement?
Yes, there are some challenges!
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I can understand NBBC not wanting NTFC to continue spending any more money on Vale View, until the Council's Scrutiny Panel have reviewed the question of suitable site availability.
Edited by VoR at 21:35:02 on 2nd July 2026
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Yes challenges- But
If the main stand could be positioned on land surrounding the clay hole fill then it may be viable . The filled clay hole does not cover the whole area of the site.
Access remains difficult though.
Looking again I'm starting to think Gala field maybe possible. It's said it's a!already been leased but what about Boro sharing with Griff at a new stadium with the junior and ladies teams using the running track pitch and facilities. Everyone would be a winner.
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Gala field is a non starter. The Griff are not allowed to erect a fence around any of the present pitches there. The Council still want the use of the field when the carnival is held.
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There is no requirement for those pitches to be enclosed.
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There would be if the site was made available to us.
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The Council still want the use of the field when the carnival is held.
Haven't they stopped using that field for the carnival?
Last year it concluded in the town centre... stalls.. rides etc.
This year its also planned to conclude in the town.
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There must be a reason that the Griff cannot enclose any of the pitches. That was what I was led to believe as to the reason. The carnival is a meer shadow of what it once was anyway, so having the gala is no longer needed.
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Funfairs & Circuses use the grassed area by the Chilvers Coton Heritage Centre & have done for sometime.
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That is the area best suited for a new stadium. Plenty of land, all flat, access to there should be easy. Why this site has not been mentioned I don’t know.
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Quite possibly. Unfortunately, it is not a site offered by the council.
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Pauls Land ?
Little by little.
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Vale View as it was
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Vale View seen prior to the filling of the Haunchwood clay pit. The spoil top left corner was the site of the Nuneaton New colliery 1840-1900.
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/archive/collections/aerial-photos/record/raf_cpe_uk_2497_v_5099
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Vale View as it was
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Vale View seen prior to the filling of the Haunchwood clay pit. The spoil top left corner was the site of the Nuneaton New colliery 1840-1900.
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/archive/collections/aerial-photos/record/raf_cpe_uk_2497_v_5099
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Crikey!!
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This will get You-Know-Who going.
( Stands poised with finger over "ignore" button awaiting incoming essays).
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Sounds like Reform are back tracking.
Local vested interest tried to block it. Hostile coverage. Now they are open minded again.
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Despite not living that far away, I don't know much about the proposed land.
However, being pragmatic. Given there is pressure/ambition to build more houses and the next PM has spoken about building council houses, would any council look at this land as a good site for council houses?
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It's a rubbish filled disused etruria marl pit which was around 80 feet.deep. It will never be suitable for housing.
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“Will be” in the hypothetical sense if anyone wanted to develop it.
Change to “is” if you prefer.
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It will be protected sports land designated by Sport England and in the Local Plan.
It won’t end up as houses.
If the football club were allowed to develop there there should be a focal point for the local community and a 4G pitch available for 7 day use.
However I fear this one will be put to the back of the current NBBC admin’s objectives and whilst they will be friendly nothing much will happen soon. Let’s hope the Nuneaton public change their minds!
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There is no further requirement for a 3G pitch in Stockingford, according to NBBC's Playing Pitches Strategy.
There is a full size 3G pitch at Alderman Smith Academy, available for Community use.
There are 2Nr 3G pitches required in the Abbey & Wem Brook areas.
Perhaps NBBC can come clean & let everyone know when a 3G pitch is going to be installed on Gala Field?
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Wembrook school has a 3G pith which the Boro youth teams have used ..... dont know if they still do
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It's a small size 3G pitch behind the School.
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You said "will be".
I agree with "being friendly". Words are very different to actions.
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Wasn't the housing estate built at the bottom of Bucks Hill built on a former tip?
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That was Haunchwood brick and tiles no 1 works 4th and final clay pit filled with council refuse in the 1970s. The third pit was across the road and was filled with NCB spoil from Daw Mill pit in the 60s/70s. Houses were built around the pit site in the 1990s.
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You only have to dig down 12 inches and you hit coal slag
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The former tip down there has never been built on . It is the field just before Hilton avenue.
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Can you build houses on an old landfill site ?
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Off gassing of methane occurs and structurally piles would be needed - these pits were usually around 60- 100 feet deep so very little chance of house building.
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I would think you can. The proposal to build a new ground near the Eliot Hospital when we left Manor Park was thrown out primarily because it was on a previous landfill. It now has car showrooms, cafe/restaurants and houses built on it.
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That was the.clay pit that served Haunchwood no3 yard.in Bermuda road.
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I believe they did on the Raywoods...... many many years ago.
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I dont believe the Raywoods was a household waste landfill sit.
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I live on the Raywoods and it wasn’t a tip. It was part of the old Stanley’s brick yard.
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Cloddies
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The Cloddies top right - Arbury rd at top- heath end rd below.
Date approx 1944.
https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/archive/collections/aerial-photos/record/raf_106g_uk_636_rp_3318
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Stanley's. no 4 yard - made glazed bricks and other goods such as sinks. A tramway took.clay to the works across fields from.their no4 pit, later named the Cloddies, now open ground around the jubilee centre and St Thomas Moore school. Coal was also taken here from the seams which outcropped in that locality.
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The houses opposite the white lion built in the 70s were located in the northern section of the Haunchwood no2 brick yard clay pit which was flooded after abandonment. After ww2 Griff no4 pit obtained a lease from the Arbury esate , who owned the land to tip Colliery spoil in the disused clay hole. Only part of it was filled with spoil and that was where houses were built. The remainder of the pit was.filled and landscaped and is now open space behind Ashdown drive.
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The Raywoods in Nuneaton was primarily built over a former industrial landscape. The housing was constructed on land that previously housed the Stanley Brothers No. 4 clay pit and its associated brickworks, which were connected by a tramway.The area, located off Heath End Road between Greenmore Road and the present-day Jubilee Centre, was transformed from these former clay pits and brick kilns into mid-20th-century housing.
Living in Greenmoor Road I used to love the cloddies and the big pool (they didnt build over that, but very near).
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No housing was built in the Cloddies.clay pits. This pit.was.Stanley brothers no 4 pit that provided clay for glazed.products at the no4 yard where the Raywoods is. The pits, now landscaped were linked to the yard.by a tramway - the fields.it.crossed.now.built on.
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Thats what i said .... it wasnt build on a house landfill site ( tip ) it was filled with quarry waste. In other words methane gas, where as VV is a methane gas site
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Gas barriers can be incorporated into the construction to mitigate the presence of methane gas on a site.
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That is the case down Bermuda. There was a refuse tip where the football pitch is situated. The methane vents can be seen in and around the Car dealerships, and the hospital site.
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Hope so. Although we need action, not just lip service.
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It will be kicked into the long grass unless we can keep the pressure up!
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The club and the council have a meeting soon. We may get to know more then. Interesting to see that other sites are being considered.
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I fear that’s a catch all phrase. There were only three options before and I don’t think the other two were suitable really. Hopefully VV can get back on track and the money spent already won’t have been wasted! It will genuinely boost the local area as well!
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Yes I know what you mean. I live in the ford and there is a lot of local concern about the club moving there. It would suit me, but then again I live a ten minute walk away, so not on my doorstep.
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Only the Stockingford Mafia think VV is a good site.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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NTFC need to explain to Warwickshire County Council Highways that their eventual aim/ambition/aspiration is to built (in phases) a new National League standard Stadium at Vale View & wait for their response!
Making sure that WCC are made aware that the new Stadium will have an eventual capacity of 4,000 spectators.
Town have employed Vista Planning to work for them on the Planning Application.
Consultation with WCC should be carried out by Vista Planning on the Club's behalf.
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They are the ones stopping it!
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Hope they do, it's a terrible site
Pandering to the so called masses of imaginary Stockingford supporters who dont even go anymore.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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To be fair there are a lot of supporters from all over the town that don't attend these days. There was a large percentage of the Manor Park crowds from the Ford though.
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There was a recent transport survey undertaken at the Oval and I can’t remember the precise figure but something like 70 or 80 per cent said they would walk to VV if the ground was established there.
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Thanks, thats total bullshit IMO, let me have the source of the official stats please.
Note to self, 'be careful what you wish for'
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Ok I’ve tried to engage with you. If that’s your attitude cheerio.
And the source was a Club Director.
But no more.
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Where have you tried to engage me!
We know the current directors want a massivley flawed site to assuage the locals. It wont happen.
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I take it that we all want the same thing; the club back in Nuneaton, Yes? It was said that the club was offered three options by the council. VV, is the clubs prefered option, it may not be mine , yours , or many other club supporters, but it is the club's. As we all know, and as many of us live in the Ford ,and remember the site as a big hole in the ground, the site is not ideal. However, we are not in the position to buy a piece of land, even if such a site was available, so we have to go cap in hand to the council to enable us getting back to town.
I don't believe that VV will be developed. The council themselves have highlighted the many flawes in that site, many of which have been discused on forum, but I will not berate anyone who holds a different position on the issue. I have said before , that I, being of a certain age, do not expect to see the club back ' home' in my lifetime. I really do not see a long term future for the club if it never happens.
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